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TOPIC: Assassin's Creed Famitsu review: 37/40
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/97b66bfcf6c9934e?hl=en
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== 1 of 14 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 12:58 pm
From: Mitch@...

On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:36:43 -0000, Jonah Falcon
<jonahnynla@mindspring.com> wrote:

> one button combat

That's a dealbreaker, IMO.

== 2 of 14 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 1:02 pm
From: "boodybandit"

"The alMIGHTY N" <natlee75@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1194031101.534269.148280@o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 2, 12:43 pm, "boodybandit" <allaboutga...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> "Big Daddy" <nos...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:ZMHWi.40957$eY.34156@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net...
>>
>>
>>
>> > "boodybandit" <allaboutga...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >news:P7adnbpne6uI1bbanZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>> >> "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:1194017803.196937.211090@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> >>> Famitsu awarded Assassin's Creed a 37 (10, 8, 9, 10) out of 40,
>> >>> citing
>> >>> the story, presentation, and acrobatics, while criticizing the one
>> >>> button combat, map layout, and camera problems.
>>
>> >> 1 button combat?
>> >> OMG say that is incorrect information please!?
>>
>> > How do you have 1 button combat? What is the point? The fights might
>> > as
>> > well be cutscenes if that is the case.
>>
>> Exactly.
>> Oh well this is shaping up to be a rental.
>> Just more money for games I was going to pass on. Maybe GH3 or Pro
>> Street.
>
> Guitar Hero III is pretty cool. It's much more fun with 2 people than
> 1, though.
>
> I tried the Rock Band demo in Best Buy today. Now *that's* fun. I've
> always liked the drums and this is the closest I'm going to get to
> playing drums.

A friend of mine is completely addicted to GH3. He purchased it on a whim
because his internet has been down for over a month and he wanted some
single player. He is begging me to give it a try. He claims it's the most
fun he has had with a console in years. He set it up in his theater and he
is having a party Sunday and wants to challenge me. I'm thinking about
running out and getting it tonight just so I don't lose to him.

== 3 of 14 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 1:05 pm
From: "boodybandit"

"The alMIGHTY N" <natlee75@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1194030959.360997.135690@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 2, 12:44 pm, "boodybandit" <allaboutga...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1194021043.290917.109720@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Nov 2, 11:56 am, "Big Daddy" <nos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> "boodybandit" <allaboutga...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:P7adnbpne6uI1bbanZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>> >> > "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> >> >news:1194017803.196937.211090@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> Famitsu awarded Assassin's Creed a 37 (10, 8, 9, 10) out of 40,
>> >> >> citing
>> >> >> the story, presentation, and acrobatics, while criticizing the one
>> >> >> button combat, map layout, and camera problems.
>>
>> >> > 1 button combat?
>> >> > OMG say that is incorrect information please!?
>>
>> >> How do you have 1 button combat? What is the point? The fights might
>> >> as
>> >> well be cutscenes if that is the case.
>>
>> > Not if it's rythmic combat - which Fable 2 is using as well.
>>
>> > It's context sensitive, and you can easily fuck up fighting. This is
>> > not a beat 'em up.
>>
>> > PS. Most PC games have one button combat. (laugh)
>>
>> Im all about the immersion and 1 button combats removes that for me.
>
> Well... how would having 2 or 3 buttons change immersion? Unless I've
> missed out on some cool new martial arts style where you kill people
> with your thumbs, LOL...

I prefer games where one button controls each of the characters limbs. I
was hoping, and thought I read at one point, that is how AC was going to
beI mean this game looks amazing but I honestly think that would drive me
crazy! I told you I am overly critical. Oh no. I am just a narrow minded
insecure fanboy. Oh wait, this is coming out for both systems. ;-) (wasn't
intended at you but others that bitch at me when I bitch about what I feel
are design flaws or ones I don't agree with.)

== 4 of 14 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 1:07 pm
From: "boodybandit"

"The alMIGHTY N" <natlee75@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1194031050.191276.313530@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 2, 2:03 pm, Jonah Falcon <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 2, 2:02 pm, slayerma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Nov 2, 9:30 am, Jonah Falcon <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > On Nov 2, 11:56 am, "Big Daddy" <nos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > > "boodybandit" <allaboutga...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>
>> > > >news:P7adnbpne6uI1bbanZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>> > > > > "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> > > > >news:1194017803.196937.211090@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> > > > >> Famitsu awarded Assassin's Creed a 37 (10, 8, 9, 10) out of 40,
>> > > > >> citing
>> > > > >> the story, presentation, and acrobatics, while criticizing the
>> > > > >> one
>> > > > >> button combat, map layout, and camera problems.
>>
>> > > > > 1 button combat?
>> > > > > OMG say that is incorrect information please!?
>>
>> > > > How do you have 1 button combat? What is the point? The fights
>> > > > might as
>> > > > well be cutscenes if that is the case.
>>
>> > > Not if it's rythmic combat - which Fable 2 is using as well.
>>
>> > > It's context sensitive, and you can easily fuck up fighting. This is
>> > > not a beat 'em up.
>>
>> > > PS. Most PC games have one button combat. (laugh)
>>
>> > I would love to see you name a good action PC game with one button
>> > combat...- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> Any given FPS.
>
> Most FPS games actually have 2-button combat... weapons these days
> always have a secondary firing mode...

Isn't jumping, sucking, running, switching weapons, etc and so on considered
part of the combat?
If so I don't know a FPS game on any system that doesn't require several
buttons. I am a little confused as to why Jonah is defending this game so
hard. It's not like it's an exclusive.

== 5 of 14 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 1:10 pm
From: "boodybandit"

"The alMIGHTY N" <natlee75@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1194030885.295860.129490@o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 2, 11:53 am, "boodybandit" <allaboutga...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1194017803.196937.211090@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > Famitsu awarded Assassin's Creed a 37 (10, 8, 9, 10) out of 40, citing
>> > the story, presentation, and acrobatics, while criticizing the one
>> > button combat, map layout, and camera problems.
>>
>> 1 button combat?
>> OMG say that is incorrect information please!?
>> The AI and now this?
>> The game is becoming more unappealing with each passing video, preview
>> and
>> review.
>> Amazing visuals, concept, story but possible poor execution with gameplay
>> complexity and AI.
>
> I read a while back that when parkouring around, you would control the
> character's individual arms and legs. Please tell me that's no longer
> the case...

That's what I read and am counting on.
I still hope that's the case and not this one button combat reported in this
article.
I still think it's one of those lost in translation things. Look at IGN's
preview of UT3 on the PS3. They were discussing not having a keyboard and
mouse support but Epic is supporting the K/B on the PS3 and it's been known
for quite some time. Another reason why I don't care for most professional
previews and reviews.

== 6 of 14 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 1:17 pm
From: Mitch@...

>I tried the Rock Band demo in Best Buy today. Now *that's* fun. I've
>always liked the drums and this is the closest I'm going to get to
>playing drums.

How flimsy is the drum kit? Do you think it will hold up?

== 7 of 14 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 1:19 pm
From: slayerman89@hotmail.com

On Nov 2, 11:03 am, Jonah Falcon <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> On Nov 2, 2:02 pm, slayerma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 2, 9:30 am, Jonah Falcon <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 2, 11:56 am, "Big Daddy" <nos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > "boodybandit" <allaboutga...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:P7adnbpne6uI1bbanZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> > > > > "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> > > > >news:1194017803.196937.211090@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> > > > >> Famitsu awarded Assassin's Creed a 37 (10, 8, 9, 10) out of 40, citing
> > > > >> the story, presentation, and acrobatics, while criticizing the one
> > > > >> button combat, map layout, and camera problems.
>
> > > > > 1 button combat?
> > > > > OMG say that is incorrect information please!?
>
> > > > How do you have 1 button combat? What is the point? The fights might as
> > > > well be cutscenes if that is the case.
>
> > > Not if it's rythmic combat - which Fable 2 is using as well.
>
> > > It's context sensitive, and you can easily fuck up fighting. This is
> > > not a beat 'em up.
>
> > > PS. Most PC games have one button combat. (laugh)
>
> > I would love to see you name a good action PC game with one button
> > combat...- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Any given FPS.

Nice try, I said name one. Any decent FPS has alternate fire modes,
dodges, and a slew of other things to keep your hands busy. I said
action game by the way, FPS's can get away with left click to shoot
combat only, but good ones do not. One button combat in an action game
would be like one button Guitar Hero.

Imagine one button combat in a Prince of Persia game, which just so
happens to be the same genre.

== 8 of 14 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 1:21 pm
From: Jonah Falcon

On Nov 2, 4:05 pm, "boodybandit" <allaboutga...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "The alMIGHTY N" <natle...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1194030959.360997.135690@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 2, 12:44 pm, "boodybandit" <allaboutga...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1194021043.290917.109720@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > On Nov 2, 11:56 am, "Big Daddy" <nos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> "boodybandit" <allaboutga...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> >> >>news:P7adnbpne6uI1bbanZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> >> >> > "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:1194017803.196937.211090@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >> Famitsu awarded Assassin's Creed a 37 (10, 8, 9, 10) out of 40,
> >> >> >> citing
> >> >> >> the story, presentation, and acrobatics, while criticizing the one
> >> >> >> button combat, map layout, and camera problems.
>
> >> >> > 1 button combat?
> >> >> > OMG say that is incorrect information please!?
>
> >> >> How do you have 1 button combat? What is the point? The fights might
> >> >> as
> >> >> well be cutscenes if that is the case.
>
> >> > Not if it's rythmic combat - which Fable 2 is using as well.
>
> >> > It's context sensitive, and you can easily fuck up fighting. This is
> >> > not a beat 'em up.
>
> >> > PS. Most PC games have one button combat. (laugh)
>
> >> Im all about the immersion and 1 button combats removes that for me.
>
> > Well... how would having 2 or 3 buttons change immersion? Unless I've
> > missed out on some cool new martial arts style where you kill people
> > with your thumbs, LOL...
>
> I prefer games where one button controls each of the characters limbs.

Do you know how ridiculously bad a game would be for that? How
stupidly contrived and overcomplicated?

== 9 of 14 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 1:21 pm
From: "Big Daddy"

"boodybandit" <allaboutgamez@comcast.net> wrote in message

> A friend of mine is completely addicted to GH3. He purchased it on a whim
> because his internet has been down for over a month and he wanted some
> single player. He is begging me to give it a try. He claims it's the
> most fun he has had with a console in years. He set it up in his theater
> and he is having a party Sunday and wants to challenge me. I'm thinking
> about running out and getting it tonight just so I don't lose to him.

I bought GH3 and it's my first foray into the franchise. It's definitely
fun, even single player, but I wouldn't say it's the most fun I've had in
years. Definitely worth the money IMO as it's got long term replay value
(I'm just about finished with the songs on EASY level, and man trying it
even on MEDIUM level kicked my ass. I ran through it on expert and I don't
see how anybody does even the slow-ride with that speed :-)

The Easy level doesn't really feel as "musical", but you can see in the
hard/Expert levels how you're hitting chords, etc. and it feels much more
like actually playing the "real" guitar. My issue is it seems to play those
harder levels I'll have to practice just like I do with my real guitar (and
if I'm going to practice playing metallica I might as well practice to play
the real thing :-)

== 10 of 14 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 1:23 pm
From: Jonah Falcon

On Nov 2, 3:58 pm, Mitch@... wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:36:43 -0000, Jonah Falcon
>
> <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > one button combat
>
> That's a dealbreaker, IMO.

How so? This is not a fighting game, stupid. Last I saw, you use the
left thumbstick to move, and one button to attack.

== 11 of 14 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 1:26 pm
From: "boodybandit"

"Jonah Falcon" <jonahnynla@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:1194034916.941907.22930@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 2, 4:05 pm, "boodybandit" <allaboutga...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> "The alMIGHTY N" <natle...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:1194030959.360997.135690@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Nov 2, 12:44 pm, "boodybandit" <allaboutga...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:1194021043.290917.109720@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > On Nov 2, 11:56 am, "Big Daddy" <nos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >> "boodybandit" <allaboutga...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >>news:P7adnbpne6uI1bbanZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>> >> >> > "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:1194017803.196937.211090@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> >> Famitsu awarded Assassin's Creed a 37 (10, 8, 9, 10) out of 40,
>> >> >> >> citing
>> >> >> >> the story, presentation, and acrobatics, while criticizing the
>> >> >> >> one
>> >> >> >> button combat, map layout, and camera problems.
>>
>> >> >> > 1 button combat?
>> >> >> > OMG say that is incorrect information please!?
>>
>> >> >> How do you have 1 button combat? What is the point? The fights
>> >> >> might
>> >> >> as
>> >> >> well be cutscenes if that is the case.
>>
>> >> > Not if it's rythmic combat - which Fable 2 is using as well.
>>
>> >> > It's context sensitive, and you can easily fuck up fighting. This is
>> >> > not a beat 'em up.
>>
>> >> > PS. Most PC games have one button combat. (laugh)
>>
>> >> Im all about the immersion and 1 button combats removes that for me.
>>
>> > Well... how would having 2 or 3 buttons change immersion? Unless I've
>> > missed out on some cool new martial arts style where you kill people
>> > with your thumbs, LOL...
>>
>> I prefer games where one button controls each of the characters limbs.
>
> Do you know how ridiculously bad a game would be for that? How
> stupidly contrived and overcomplicated?

Yeah you're right Jonah.
Good thing the PS3 and 360 controller doesn't have more tha 2 buttons.

== 12 of 14 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 1:27 pm
From: "boodybandit"

"boodybandit" <allaboutgamez@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:9MWdnSfgBeIcHrbanZ2dnUVZ_qKgnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> "The alMIGHTY N" <natlee75@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1194031050.191276.313530@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>> On Nov 2, 2:03 pm, Jonah Falcon <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>> On Nov 2, 2:02 pm, slayerma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Nov 2, 9:30 am, Jonah Falcon <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > > On Nov 2, 11:56 am, "Big Daddy" <nos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > > > "boodybandit" <allaboutga...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>
>>> > > >news:P7adnbpne6uI1bbanZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>
>>> > > > > "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>> > > > >news:1194017803.196937.211090@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>> > > > >> Famitsu awarded Assassin's Creed a 37 (10, 8, 9, 10) out of 40,
>>> > > > >> citing
>>> > > > >> the story, presentation, and acrobatics, while criticizing the
>>> > > > >> one
>>> > > > >> button combat, map layout, and camera problems.
>>>
>>> > > > > 1 button combat?
>>> > > > > OMG say that is incorrect information please!?
>>>
>>> > > > How do you have 1 button combat? What is the point? The fights
>>> > > > might as
>>> > > > well be cutscenes if that is the case.
>>>
>>> > > Not if it's rythmic combat - which Fable 2 is using as well.
>>>
>>> > > It's context sensitive, and you can easily fuck up fighting. This is
>>> > > not a beat 'em up.
>>>
>>> > > PS. Most PC games have one button combat. (laugh)
>>>
>>> > I would love to see you name a good action PC game with one button
>>> > combat...- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> > - Show quoted text -
>>>
>>> Any given FPS.
>>
>> Most FPS games actually have 2-button combat... weapons these days
>> always have a secondary firing mode...
>
> Isn't jumping, sucking, <--LMAO! Some day I am going to get use to
> using this tiny laptop keyboard.

== 13 of 14 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 1:29 pm
From: "boodybandit"

<Mitch@...> wrote in message
news:d60ni35m8o8inq8p4br7ccpdb69uo1lcv8@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:36:43 -0000, Jonah Falcon
> <jonahnynla@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> one button combat
>
> That's a dealbreaker, IMO.

Agreed

== 14 of 14 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 1:32 pm
From: Mitch@...

> This is not a fighting game, stupid.

Where the hell do you get off?

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TOPIC: GH3 (PS3) has some problems
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/dc9c264b6cc61604?hl=en
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Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 12:59 pm
From: "boodybandit"

"Jonah Falcon" <jonahnynla@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:1194017930.059341.78030@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 2, 10:14 am, The alMIGHTY N <natle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Oct 30, 10:51 am, Jonah Falcon <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >http://xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/guitar-hero-iii/831299p3.html
>>
>> > "Of the various platforms, the PS3 Les Paul feels great in your hands,
>> > though the interface with the console is quite clunky. You'll use a
>> > USB dongle to attach to the PS3, and it functions on 2.4 Ghz wireless,
>> > rather than the console's built-in Bluetooth. You won't be able to use
>> > the PlayStation button to turn on your console; instead, you'll either
>> > use a Sixaxis or physically turn it on.
>>
>> > On the PS3, we encountered some odd problems during a co-op Career.
>> > Just like the Sixaxis, the Les Pauls will power down after a period of
>> > disuse, but one guitar wouldn't respond to the dongle signal no matter
>> > how many times we followed the instructions and reset both dongle and
>> > guitar. We reset the console to restart everything, but that also
>> > wiped out our progress, which allegedly had been autosaving all along.
>> > Ouch. Adding insult to injury, barring a patch from Sony or Red
>> > Octane, there's currently no backwards compatibility with the prior
>> > games, which is just another pain for PS3 owners to deal with. "
>>
>> > This is not the PS3's fault so much as Red Octane's.
>>
>> Didn't you recently go after RMZ for posting about the developer who
>> said PS3 development was difficult? You also went off on me for even
>> asking which PS2 games Xbox gamers would be interested in playing,
>> stating that this was an Xbox newsgroup "period."- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> There's problems on the 360 side too.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_Hero_III#Technical_issues

I wonder if there is a difference in sound quality.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 1:22 pm
From: Jonah Falcon

On Nov 2, 3:59 pm, "boodybandit" <allaboutga...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1194017930.059341.78030@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 2, 10:14 am, The alMIGHTY N <natle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Oct 30, 10:51 am, Jonah Falcon <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> >> >http://xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/guitar-hero-iii/831299p3.html
>
> >> > "Of the various platforms, the PS3 Les Paul feels great in your hands,
> >> > though the interface with the console is quite clunky. You'll use a
> >> > USB dongle to attach to the PS3, and it functions on 2.4 Ghz wireless,
> >> > rather than the console's built-in Bluetooth. You won't be able to use
> >> > the PlayStation button to turn on your console; instead, you'll either
> >> > use a Sixaxis or physically turn it on.
>
> >> > On the PS3, we encountered some odd problems during a co-op Career.
> >> > Just like the Sixaxis, the Les Pauls will power down after a period of
> >> > disuse, but one guitar wouldn't respond to the dongle signal no matter
> >> > how many times we followed the instructions and reset both dongle and
> >> > guitar. We reset the console to restart everything, but that also
> >> > wiped out our progress, which allegedly had been autosaving all along.
> >> > Ouch. Adding insult to injury, barring a patch from Sony or Red
> >> > Octane, there's currently no backwards compatibility with the prior
> >> > games, which is just another pain for PS3 owners to deal with. "
>
> >> > This is not the PS3's fault so much as Red Octane's.
>
> >> Didn't you recently go after RMZ for posting about the developer who
> >> said PS3 development was difficult? You also went off on me for even
> >> asking which PS2 games Xbox gamers would be interested in playing,
> >> stating that this was an Xbox newsgroup "period."- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > There's problems on the 360 side too.
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_Hero_III#Technical_issues
>
> I wonder if there is a difference in sound quality.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Doubt it.

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TOPIC: Xbox's Embarrasing History
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/905c5e8c40f5ed78?hl=en
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Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 1:13 pm
From: "boodybandit"

"terryfied" <terryvickers999@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I've had over five glorious years of Xbox gaming, offline and online,
> and in the process I've made lots of friends from all around the
> world; and I don't regret a single minute.
>
> A big thanks to Microsoft for making it all possible. :-)

If only you could have multiple friends list or a bigger capacity for
friends.
I think it would be neat to have them listed under the game you met them in.
Maybe have catergories. This way when you want to get rid free up some space
you will know where you met whom where.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 1:24 pm
From: The alMIGHTY N

LOL

This is going to be fun... it's these types of idiotic posts that get
me through the work day haha...

On Nov 2, 10:55 am, "alvinstraigh...@hotmail.com"
<alvinstraigh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Xbots love to rub it in about how poorly the PS3 has performed this
> year even daring to go so far as to compare it to the disasteristic
> Jaguar.

Actually, only one poster compared it to the Jaguar. It was an
interesting comparison because there were quite a few parallels.

> Yet one only has to dig a little into history and reveal
> Xbox's shockingly bad history.

Or your misinterpretation of it haha.

> Xbox debuts in 2001 with one of those worst game libraries in gaming
> history. Anyone remember Bruce Lee? Nightcaster? Azurik ?

LOL - None of those were launch titles. That crappy Bruce Lee game
didn't even come out until July of the following year. Azurik was
close - about 2 weeks after launch - but Nightcaster didn't come out
until late December.

The Xbox launch titles:

- Halo: Combat Evolved
- Project Gotham Racing
- Dead or Alive 3
- Oddworld: Munch's Oddyssee
- NFL Fever 2002
- Airforce Delta Storm
- Mad Dash Racing
- Cel Damage
- Arctic Thunder
- Fusion Frenzy

By the end of 2001, there were 37 Xbox games available for purchase.
That's about twice the number of Playstation 3 games available for
purchase at the end of 2006.

> The
> console is pricey at $300 bucks.

And the Playstation 3 at $600 isn't?

> Xbox is forced to drop their price a few months later

Microsoft dropped the price of the Xbox in May. Sony dropped the price
of the Playstation 3 in June and then again in October. The Xbox's
second price drop didn't come until almost exactly a year after the
first one.

> Xbox rapes users forcing them to pay big bucks for standard extras
> such as a dvd remote and headset.

The Playstation 2 didn't come with a headset or a DVD remote so I
guess all those PS2 fans were rape as well.

> Xbox live debuts in 2002 with a mere handful of Live games. Gamers
> have to wait almost a year before decent multiplayer titles come out.

And that's better than Playstation 2 owners not having any online
network at all and not being able to play online games for 3 years?
Not to mention that you had to purchase a pricey network adapter until
the later slim line model that incorporated it.

> Brute Force is hyped hugely as the next great Halo type game. The
> game is a laughable failure with an extremely short game length.
> Fable is a similiar experience.

I won't disagree with those statements. I had fun with Brute Force but
found it a disappointment nonetheless. I couldn't get through an hour
of Fable without giving up any hope of actually having fun.

> The slogan "only on Xbox" becomes an industry joke as several of
> Xbox's great exclusives are ported to other consoles. For example,
> Splinter Cell found it's way on all other platforms, and even the
> great Halo ended up on the PC with a superior version.

Man, you really are dumb. Splinter Cell was never touted as an Xbox
true exclusive. The Xbox was the target platform but everybody knew
that the game was coming out for the Playstation 2 and GameCube from
the get go.

That's a lot better than Sony touting Unreal Tournament 3 as a true
exclusive for a year and then having Epic announce there would be an
Xbox 360 version only a few months afterwards.

Further, a game ported to the PC is still an exclusive. When people
talk about video games being exclusives, they only consider
consoles... hell, people don't even say that they play video games on
PCs... those games are specifically called PC games.

> In 2005, Microsoft reveals that they literally lost billions on Xbox.

And?

> Microsoft decides to punish anyone who dares to mod their Xbox by
> banning them from Live for life.

Sony ran several companies out of business with the costs of lawsuits
for emulating PSOne games.

Microsoft did exactly what they should do - everybody knows that
people modded their Xbox systems for one reason... to be able to play
ripped games. Are you seriously going to defend people's "right" to
pirate games, dumbass?

> Just as Xbox was gathering momentum in 2005, Microsoft completely
> drops all support in favor of Xbox 360. Xbox owners are forced to
> update or brick their big black box.

Gathering momentum? What planet are you from? The Xbox was a lost
cause. Microsoft wasn't stupid - why keep making the console if you
have less than 10% market share?

And once again you ignore the fact that developers could have
continued to make Xbox games but chose not to because < 10% market
share translated to meager sales when they could be devoting resources
to making exclusives for the system with 90% market share.

You keep trying to validate this point and you still sound as stupid
as you did the first time you said it.

> Xbox 360 launches in 2005 with only one good game - Call of Duty 2, a
> PC title. Xbox 360 would take almost a full year to release one
> decent exclusive.

Just when we thought you couldn't make a dumber statement, you go
ahead and surprise us with this one.

Metacritic scores:

Call of Duty 2 - 90
Project Gotham Racing 3 - 88
Dead or Alive 4 - 85
Need For Speed: Most Wanted - 83
Condemned - 81
NBA 2K6 - 81
Perfect Dark Zero - 81
King Kong - 80

8 games 80+ (average score 83.625), 1 game 90+, 4 true exclusives

Let's look at the Playstation 3:

Resistance - 86
Fight Night - 83
Tiger Woods 07 - 81
NBA 2K7 - 80
Call of Duty 3 - 80

5 games 80+ (average score 82), 0 games 90+, 1 true exclusive

Further, if you consider scores of 88, 85, 83, 81, and 80 to be less
than decent, then you better revise your statements about Resistance
(86), Warhawk (84), Heavenly Sword (79), Eye of Judgment (76), and
Folklore (a horrendous 74).

> Despite a year head start, on September 12, 2007, it was reported by
> the Financial Times that the Xbox 360 had been surpassed by the Wii in
> terms of worldwide console sales.

How is this bad for the Xbox 360 when everyone here seems to think the
Wii isn't even next-generation and shouldn't be considered a
competitor? How is this bad even in general when Japan rejected Xbox
360 from day 1? Japan embraced the PS3 as best it could yet the Wii
blew it out of the water from the get go.

> Since 2005, Microsoft has yet to turn a profit with over 4 billion
> lost.

Actually, Microsoft has been turning a profit since well before that.
If you're talking about the Microsoft games division, you need to go
further back than that - 2001 or so.

> ??? of this cost went to repairing Xbox's lousy hardware with
> their extended warranty.

So you think it's a bad thing that Microsoft gave an extended warranty
to consumers that needed it?

> Man, and you think the PS3 is doing bad?

I don't need to *think* the Playstation 3 is doing badly. I just need
to look at the facts to see this. Sony now has a chance to gain some
headway with the release of the $400 PS3 to North American consumers
but don't discount the fact that they *do* need to gain a *lot* of
ground.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 1:16 pm
From: Mitch@...

What a pile of crap. I wonder how much they paid Agora Games to build
this non-functioning joke. I hope they sue them and get their money
back.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 1:17 pm
From: "boodybandit"

<mordacpreventor@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 2, 6:25 am, "boodybandit" <allaboutga...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> "Trevor Smithson" <trevor_smith...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:u5rki3p59cm3fct2m9gphrp8c3mk5ingmg@4ax.com...
>>
>> > Just in case the storm this has caused on the Internet has passed you
>> > by:
>>
>> >http://holiday.ri-walmart.com/?section=secret
>>
>> > I think this is a better deal than the 360's add-on drive. The only
>> > downside I can see is a lack of 1080p output, which is irreleveant if
>> > your TV has a good deinterlacer.
>>
>> It's only irrelevant if you don't own a 1080p set and just want a better
>> quality DVD.
>> 1080p display from a 1080p source makes more a difference than some would
>> like to think otherwise. It's an excellent price but I would rather just
>> add
>> some funds and get a true 1080p player since I own 1080p displays.
>
>
> If you own a 1080p television, you're in a very small minority of HD
> television owners.
>
> Most are 720p and a few are 1080i, but hardly anyone is at 1080p
> according to HD TV sales figures.
>
> A $100 720p/1080i player is going to be very attractive to the vast
> majority of HD TV owners, especially considering Walmart is also
> selling HD DVDs at $15.
>
>
>> I want a dual player stand alone unit myself.
>
> So would I, but until they come down to my price range for one, a $100
> player will be just fine.

I have multiple 1080p displays. I like to waste money that way. I wish I
wasn't so anal about always having the best because 720p are so much cheaper
(I know Jonah I am conpensating for a small penis). You could outfit your
whole house for the price of 2 good 1080p displays with 720p sets.

I don't think it will be that long from now when we can pick up BluRay and
HD DVD (1080p) stand alones for $100 a piece. Probably 2nd or 3rd quarter of
2008.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 1:24 pm
From: "Big Daddy"

<jeffbab@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the psychoanalysis. Your assumptions based on your personal
> experiences hold about as much weight as the shit I just flushed down
> the toilet.

yep, just what I thought. Thanks.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 1:27 pm
From: "khee mao"

"Captain Jack Harkness" <captainjack@torchwood.gov> wrote in message
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>
> "khee mao" <big_bad_buddha_daddy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:fgdqbh$8ac$1@gnus01.u.washington.edu...
>>
>> "Captain Jack Harkness" <captainjack@torchwood.gov> wrote in message
>> news:7bWdnTyzTKo7A7TanZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >
>> > "boodybandit" <allaboutgamez@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> > news:mPKdnXtkMv3yXLXanZ2dnUVZ_qelnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >>
>> >> "Captain Jack Harkness" <captainjack@torchwood.gov> wrote in message
>> >> news:bpadnRHyBZlOprXanZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >> > Maybe you just lost the chart.
>> >>
>> >> Hey Capt Loser Troll.
>> >> If you are going to spam all of usenet with an article that was
>> >> originally
>> >> posted to the proper group ( alt.games.video.sony-playstation3 ) at
> least
>> >> post the original message with the link that was provided dumbass.
>> >
>> > You're just jealous because I made a hefty profit on my Microsoft stock
>> > this
>> > week.
>> >
>> >
> http://www.forbes.com/2007/10/31/microsoft-apple-closer-markets-equity-cx_er_ra_1031markets52.html?partner=iaci
>> >
>> > Microsoft Gets Its Groove Back
>> >
>> > Investors seem to be warming up again to Microsoft.
>> >
>> > The software maker rose $1.24, or $3.5%, to $36.81 on Wednesday. There
> was
>> > no major news out of Redmond, Wash., but the Street has been gaining
>> > confidence in Microsoft (nasdaq: MSFT - news - people ) since the
> company
>> > released stellar quarterly results last week.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> since when is a 3.5% gain "making money?" bfd.
>
> You don't read too well, do you PoS3tard? I said *I* made a hefty profit
> on
> *MY* Microsoft stock.
>
>
so since when is a 3.5% gain "making money" you stupid douche?

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 1:36 pm
From: "Big Daddy"

"The alMIGHTY N" <natlee75@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> I don't know if this publication can be viewed as the end-all, be-all
> like NPD is, but I would be surprised if the numbers for Blu-Ray were
> off by 200,000 or more.
>
> http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-6214944.html

well that matches what I was saying (2:1 in US), so I don't dispute it.
It's doing worse in the US than anywhere else, and it's still got a 2:1 lead
here.

> When was it ever a fair fight? Sony incorporated the Blu-Ray player
> into the Playstation 3 for the purpose of having a Trojan horse into
> consumers' homes. The whole "games need Blu-Ray" is just corporate
> bullshit, legitimate in the future or not.

I don't agree with that at all. We're already seeing games in the first
year that are taking up more capacity than can fit on a DVD. What's it
going to be like in year 2, 3, or 4? It was "forward thinking" to include a
higher capacity drive (now the fact that it was blu-ray was for obvious
reasons)

> HD-DVD can't cry about it - all's fair, after all. However, I find it
> hilarious when people try to say that HD-DVD throwing money at
> Paramount to go exclusive is somehow morally wrong or unfair without
> saying the same about Sony forcing many PS3 gamers to become default
> Blu-Ray owners.

Sorry, I don't see how they forced anything on me at all. The fact that it
had a higher capacity drive was one of my points for choosing it over the
360. There's nothing *underhanded* about that. However when the customers
had made their decision, and it is overwhelmingly blu-ray (to quote
blockbuster), but to keep in the game you throw a few million at a studio to
support you? That is underhanded.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 1:36 pm
From: "Rowdy J"

"boodybandit" <allaboutgamez@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Rowdy J" <rowdyj@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:YVOVi.15952$lD6.8889@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
>>
>> "Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
>> news:pOednTvJs-BgOrranZ2dnUVZ_t2inZ2d@insightbb.com...
>>>
>>> "Mark Johnson" <mark-johnson@freeola.com> wrote in message
>>> news:fg87gu$f9k$1@energise.enta.net...
>>>> Rowdy J wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:oJmdnc92_KZpCrranZ2dnUVZ_tuonZ2d@insightbb.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Rowdy J" <rowdyj@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:mOHVi.2617$%Z2.1625@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:MPWdncT0DP5BRLvanZ2dnUVZ_ramnZ2d@insightbb.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Rowdy J" <rowdyj@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:pDAVi.3583$Nz7.2617@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:dcmdnQkusffdK7vanZ2dnUVZ_tajnZ2d@insightbb.com...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Rowdy J" <rowdyj@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:LToVi.1463$%Y6.77@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:lpudne2KppNKi7vanZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@insightbb.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Rowdy J" <rowdyj@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%5nVi.3506$Nz7.1835@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=17934
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS3 is Not More Powerful than Xbox 360, says Ex-Harmonix Dev
>>>>>>>>>>>> <snipped>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How many times are you fanboys going to regurgitate the same
>>>>>>>>>>>> article over and over and agai? Not only that, you're prick
>>>>>>>>>>>> enough to crosspost it, in the hopes of starting a flame war.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nah, I'm prick enough to post a real article that laughs out
>>>>>>>>>>> loud at the PS3. That's all. I didn't notice someone else
>>>>>>>>>>> posted it until just now.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We have regular 360/PS3 pro/con discussions in here. Get used
>>>>>>>>>>> to it. Prick.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, but you know what your goal is here with that regurgitation,
>>>>>>>>>> and it isn't close to anything being a "discussion". Now go climb
>>>>>>>>>> back under your bed and put your tinfoil hat back on, before the
>>>>>>>>>> thought rays start making your skull shrink.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There was no goal, except to make little whiny pussies like
>>>>>>>>> yourself start pissing in your pants because a dev slighted your
>>>>>>>>> shiny POS3.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LOL, goes to show how much you really want to contribute to
>>>>>>>> discussions here. I don't own a PS3, I've never owned a PS
>>>>>>>> anything. But when fanbabies like you get countered with articles
>>>>>>>> that show something above what the 360 can do, that can on the PS3,
>>>>>>>> you disappear or complain of trolling. If you were even the
>>>>>>>> slightest in being objective, you wouldn't attack something that
>>>>>>>> scares you and your beloved.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I own both consoles. I would really love both consoles if the PS
>>>>>>> had anything worth a shit besides it's "Blur-Ray" capability and a
>>>>>>> few downloadable games.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah right, and it's interesting rationalization on your part that
>>>>>> you own a PS3 to which you attribute nasty epithets. It's a PoS
>>>>>> according to you, yet you have one and you say you "would love the
>>>>>> PS, blah blah blah", but you buy games for it and you and you son
>>>>>> play them. Your definition of a PoS is really distorted from what
>>>>>> that term typically means here in quality hardware, as to what it has
>>>>>> in games.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom, trade in your PS3 for a life. Seriously. Would you like a
>>>>> picture of my PS3 alongside my 360 to prove in your shallow little
>>>>> head that while I own a PS3, it doesn't mean I'm in love with it and
>>>>> will defend it blindly even though Sony can't make decent games for
>>>>> it?
>>>>
>>>> There is decent games, its just maybe you don't like them which is fair
>>>> enough.
>>>
>>> But, would that make the console a PoS?
>>
>> Well, with the controller dropouts I've been experiencing (yes, most
>> launch machines have this issue), and the constant firmware updates to
>> make things work that should've worked upon launch, and the whole rumble
>> fiasco (having to buy new controllers to take advantage of it), and
>> Sony's broken promises about various software and release dates, yes... I
>> think it qualifies it as a PoS.
>
> Please tell me you didn't just say the PS3 is POS hardware.
> As a 360 consumer I can not believe you actually have the balls to go
> "there".
> You have really gone off the deep end now. Maybe you should tell you
> doctor you needs to start some meds.

The hardware is fine. The software blows balls. And without the
software... guess what... the hardware blows balls too.

What IS with the controller dropouts though? That SUCKS. To be in the
middle of a fast paced game and have the controller get hit with the "stupid
stick" and stop responding for a second or two is utterly ridiculous.
Sony's probably trying to avoid commenting on it... but it IS a real
issue... and a real issue without a fix as far as I know.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 1:38 pm
From: "Rowdy J"

"Big Daddy" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Rowdy J" <rowdyj@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:YVOVi.15952$lD6.8889@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
>
>>> But, would that make the console a PoS?
>>
>> Well, with the controller dropouts I've been experiencing (yes, most
>> launch machines have this issue), and the constant firmware updates to
>> make things work that should've worked upon launch, and the whole rumble
>> fiasco (having to buy new controllers to take advantage of it), and
>> Sony's broken promises about various software and release dates, yes... I
>> think it qualifies it as a PoS.
>
> well this proves that you don't own the console. I think the last
> firmware update was mid september
>
>

Oh boy... you guys are funny. How many firmware updates have there been
since launch? Exactly. Too many to note.

Oh, and they all took about 10-20 minutes to download too.... on an
Elite DSL connection (3.0mb) Not because they were large, mind you -- but
because the network sucked wind and couldn't feed it's customers quickly and
efficiently.

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