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TOPIC: Anyone bought Conan?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/d1646416413897ab?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 12:56 am
From: Jeff Holinski

If so, how is it?
I liked the demo and have been thinking of picking up the full game.
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Jeff H........

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 2:17 am
From: "Spork"

"Jeff Holinski" <nospam_Holinski@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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>
> If so, how is it?
> I liked the demo and have been thinking of picking up the full game.
> Remove nospam_ to reply by email
>
> Jeff H........

Have been playing it for about a week. I'm about 5 hours in, and I think
there's about 12 hours all up. It rocks, reminds me of more old-school hack
and slash games, but there are enough unique elements (platform areas,
trebuchets to operate etc) to keep you interested. The combo attacks are
good - I'm buying up and using mainly combos for two-handed weapons like
staffs and claymores. Next time through I'll concentrate on the 2x
one-handed weapon skills. Kills are very gory, there's female nudity so I
wouldn't recommend if there are kids around (there are parental controls to
remove this but it would take most of the fun and "conan atmosphere" out of
it).

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 9:07 am
From: "JOE"

I rented it and finished it in 2 days on normal difficulty. It's pretty
much a god of war clone. It does have some cool moves you can learn. Really
you can get thru the whole game with just mashing the light attack button.
Some enemies you might need to hit the heavy attack button.
Be warned the voice acting for the characters is really awful.
Overall it's a good rental but, I would never pay $60 for it.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 2:36 pm
From: stars20226@hotmail.com

On Nov 3, 11:56 pm, Jeff Holinski <nospam_Holin...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> If so, how is it?
> I liked the demo and have been thinking of picking up the full game.
> Remove nospam_ to reply by email
>
> Jeff H........

I got this one about a week ago and finally got around to opening it
last night. So far, I love it. It is definitely inspired by God of
War, but with enough to keep it fresh. As one of the posters above
said, it does remind one of those sorely missed hack and slash games
of the good old days.

I would recommend it if you have $60 burning a hole in your pocket.

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TOPIC: 5yr Old Son saved over our copy of Lego Star Wars ll? Help
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/673ff3957dd2974a?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 2:24 am
From: "Fu Q"

"Alai" <alai702@texanet.com> wrote in message
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> <buffyslay@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1194038739.797125.187990@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>> Hi
>>
>> Our 5yr Old Son saved over our copy of Lego Star Wars ll, and now we
>> cannot access the old copy which had all the missions completed so he
>> could go in and play with different characters...
>>
>> Help - how do i get it back? its in the console log as mostly
>> completed...
>
> Smck him upside the head with the game disc, then make himeat it. That
> should teach him
>

Ya, that's what to do, beat the shit out of a five year old because he
erased your game saves. Please tell me you don't plan on reproducing??
PLEASE get yourself fixed right away.

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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 10:44 am
From: "Alai"

"Fu Q" <imnot@home.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Alai" <alai702@texanet.com> wrote in message
> news:58idncOpOuhIZ7banZ2dnUVZ_viunZ2d@comcast.com...
>> <buffyslay@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1194038739.797125.187990@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Our 5yr Old Son saved over our copy of Lego Star Wars ll, and now we
>>> cannot access the old copy which had all the missions completed so he
>>> could go in and play with different characters...
>>>
>>> Help - how do i get it back? its in the console log as mostly
>>> completed...
>>
>> Smck him upside the head with the game disc, then make himeat it. That
>> should teach him
>>
>
> Ya, that's what to do, beat the shit out of a five year old because he
> erased your game saves. Please tell me you don't plan on reproducing??
> PLEASE get yourself fixed right away.

You thought I was serious? Go visit some comedy clubs and get a clue.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 12:53 pm
From: Grinder

Alai wrote:
> "Fu Q" <imnot@home.com> wrote in message
> news:472d9215$0$26459$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
>> "Alai" <alai702@texanet.com> wrote in message
>> news:58idncOpOuhIZ7banZ2dnUVZ_viunZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> <buffyslay@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1194038739.797125.187990@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> Our 5yr Old Son saved over our copy of Lego Star Wars ll, and now we
>>>> cannot access the old copy which had all the missions completed so he
>>>> could go in and play with different characters...
>>>>
>>>> Help - how do i get it back? its in the console log as mostly
>>>> completed...
>>> Smck him upside the head with the game disc, then make himeat it. That
>>> should teach him
>>>
>> Ya, that's what to do, beat the shit out of a five year old because he
>> erased your game saves. Please tell me you don't plan on reproducing??
>> PLEASE get yourself fixed right away.
>
> You thought I was serious? Go visit some comedy clubs and get a clue.

Just because you were joking doesn't mean that you're funny.

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TOPIC: FREE SHIPPING! DVDs are 100% brand new, and factory sealed! good
quality and cheap price!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/1923b1bcb447527c?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 2:25 am
From: "Fu Q"

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TOPIC: Ratchett and Clanks sells a whopping 97,000 copies in first week!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/e0c2b7ea4f8bca94?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 5:13 am
From: "boodybandit"

"Texan_2112" <spammers.suck@all.times> wrote in message
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>
> "Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
> news:a96dnZS9NaVTb7HanZ2dnUVZ_i2dnZ2d@insightbb.com...
>>
>> "Jordan" <lundj@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:1194056604.374910.240970@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Nov 2, 6:54 am, elro...@pop.uky.edu wrote:
>>>
>>>> 97,000 copies of a game that was supposed to be a flagship title
>>>> is an
>>>> absolute joke, It's barely worth comparing to even the crappiest
>>>> of
>>>> 360 titles.
>>>
>>> Even worse than that, Namco said, about a year ago, that they have
>>> to
>>> sell 500,000 copies to turn a profit.
>>>
>>> http://kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/namco-ps3-games-must-sell-500k-for-profit-218215.php
>>>
>>> - Jordan
>>>
>>
>> Well, you need to take that article from a year ago for its context
>> then, it
>> doesn't add up now. Here are parts of that article (not nessecarily
>> in order
>> of how it reads in the article):
>>
>> "Graphics for the high-definition games cost about 1 billion yen
>> ($8.6
>> million) to create, more than double that for Nintendo Co.'s Wii
>> titles,
>> Takasu said in a Tokyo interview Nov. 28."
>>
>> ``We have to sell at least 500,000 copies per title worldwide to
>> make a
>> profit on PlayStation 3 games,'' said Takasu. He said titles for the
>> new
>> Sony console are ``selling well.''
>>
>> Why wouldn't those cost apply to the 360 for HD game expenses?
>>
>> More:
>>
>> "Shortages of the PlayStation 3 may also make it more difficult for
>> software
>> makers to sell enough games. Tokyo-based Sony halved shipment
>> targets for
>> the console this year and delayed the European release amid a dearth
>> for
>> some parts. The company may have missed its goal of shipping 400,000
>> consoles in the U.S. earlier this month, according to analysts
>> including
>> Jeetil Patel at Deutsche Bank Securities in San Francisco."
>>
>> Wasn't there shortages for the 360 and adding that, how would that
>> apply
>> today since the PS3 now has close to a 5.5mil install base?
>>
>> Anyway, more:
>>
>> ``Game makers may hesitate to make games for a console if its
>> shipment is
>> being delayed,'' said Yuuki Sakurai, who helps manage $6.02 billion
>> at
>> Fukoku Mutual Life Insurance Co. in Tokyo. ``Some game makers may
>> wait until
>> a console becomes popular because of increasing production costs.''
>>
>> Again, now we have almost 5.5mil PS3 out there, you're stating an
>> article
>> that wouldn't apply today, but more here:
>>
>> "Tokyo-based Namco Bandai expects games for the consoles introduced
>> this
>> month by Sony and Nintendo and a year ago by Microsoft Corp. to
>> account for
>> 10 percent of software sales, or 3.15 million units, this fiscal
>> year ending
>> March 31, Takasu said. The company sold about 26,000 titles for
>> Microsoft's
>> Xbox 360 last year, when it was introduced."
>>
>> Let's see, when Namco releasd titles for the 360 the previous year
>> (and the
>> 360 had less consoles installed relative to the PS3 at the end of
>> "06",
>> correct me if I am worng on this), it sold 26,000 titles. Didn't
>> they just
>> state that they need to sell 500K to make a profit for HD games, yet
>> only
>> sold 26,000 HD titles for the 360?
>>
>>
>
> You are not taking into account the greater expense developing for the
> PS3 due to it's learning curve and overall difficulty in crafting
> optimized code, which we have seen as one ps3 title after another is
> delayed. Overhead costs for 360 development are much lower, and can be
> shared with the pc, and possible other platforms such as mobile, etc.
> Admittedly 26K units moved in a year is probably not very profitable,
> but it comes a lot closer to creating a real profit to the publisher
> and developer than ps3 software sales are at this time.

That would depend on the title and the developer.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 6:01 am
From: "Tom"

And how many 360 titles were delayed because of development issues ? But I
was addressing the article and the timeframe it represents, so take this
into account, one game for the PS3 was
actually developed for the PS3 at that time, RFOM, and it wasn't delayed.
The others were almost all ports, didn't see dev problems there. Dirt, for
the 360 which came out 2 months before the PS3 version, was not as good as
the PS3 version, so writing code doesn't seem to be an issue either. Why
after over 1-1/2 year of making games on a console, is the 360 version of
Dirt not as good as the same game that came out on a system not close to a
year old when it was released? IOWs, it seemed harder to make the game
better for the 360.

Also, correct me if I am wrong, but for the 360 I think COD2 cost about
$15mil to develop,
Perfect Dark Zero took 3 years and $12mil to develop. But here we have
Heavenly Sword run along $15-20mil range to develop (and that is well into
3-4 years), so I don't see cost as a point now since it seems to be about a
wash for both system in dev costs, it would be an issue if the consoles
didn't sell, which what was Namco is contesting

> Admittedly 26K units moved in a year is probably not very profitable,
> but it comes a lot closer to creating a real profit to the publisher
> and developer than ps3 software sales are at this time.
>

The point is, the article makes a
statement regarding some 500k threshold to make money on PS3 titles at that
time, (do you see Namco or any other developer making this claim now?), yet,
it also states that just a tad more than 1/20 (of 500K) of Namco's titles
(meaning not just one title) for the 360 sold in its first year of
availability at the end of 2005. Where's their money making issue with that?

While I see your point, you are making it a stretch since the meat of
Namco's
argument was how many PS3s were released for launch for them to make their
500K claim. Yet the 360 had less at its launch. But it state "titles" sold
only 26k in (if just in one week would be total shit) for the easy to write
to 360
for that relative time frame.

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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 5:17 am
From: "Robert Scaglione"

That stuns me. I loved the original on Xbox and thought the seqeal would
naturaly come out on all the next generation systems, but it's only for Wii
and PS3? Will there be a 360 version in the future? (Like a belated release
with thet GTA franchises on Xbox?)

Capt C.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 6:34 am
From: "John J"

"Robert Scaglione" <captchaossega@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:VDjXi.1571$Zz.1458@trnddc07...
> That stuns me. I loved the original on Xbox and thought the seqeal would
> naturaly come out on all the next generation systems, but it's only for
> Wii
> and PS3? Will there be a 360 version in the future? (Like a belated
> release
> with thet GTA franchises on Xbox?)
>
> Capt C.

It's for Wii and PS2.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 8:32 am
From: Jonah Falcon

On Nov 4, 9:34 am, "John J" <t...@isafake.email> wrote:
> "Robert Scaglione" <captchaoss...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:VDjXi.1571$Zz.1458@trnddc07...
>
> > That stuns me. I loved the original on Xbox and thought the seqeal would
> > naturaly come out on all the next generation systems, but it's only for
> > Wii
> > and PS3? Will there be a 360 version in the future? (Like a belated
> > release
> > with thet GTA franchises on Xbox?)
>
> > Capt C.
>
> It's for Wii and PS2.

Manhunt 2 has been getting dreadful reviews. Everything Rockstar has
done save GTA3 and Bully has stunk badly.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 1:43 pm
From: Jordan

On Nov 4, 5:17 am, "Robert Scaglione" <captchaoss...@verizon.net>
wrote:
> That stuns me. I loved the original on Xbox and thought the seqeal would
> naturaly come out on all the next generation systems, but it's only for Wii
> and PS3?

It's not even on the PS3. It's Wii, PS2 and PSP. The PSP version has
already been hacked to remove the editing.

- Jordan

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TOPIC: how to drop your weapon in halo 3
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 5:39 am
From: silentpig

On Nov 2, 5:38 am, "boodybandit" <allaboutga...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Alai" <alai...@texanet.com> wrote in message
>
> news:g5mdnX-6XN7QMrfanZ2dnUVZ_qWtnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> > "silentpig" <psufreak...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:1193971473.251176.171770@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> >> this is how to have no weapons in halo 3
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1YPqRIAKTY
>
> > Thanks, that was fun to see. I also saw in Gametrailers about acquiring 9
> > gold skulls? Are these things documented somewhere in the game for us to
> > know to try looking for them?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hidden+skulls+halo+3
>
> don't forget searching for the silver skulls as well so you can get the
> ninja armour for MC online.

yes they are but i do not have any walkthroughs on them and i am not
planning to because i am very busy working on a music video for my
clan.

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TOPIC: When u see movie ,we must use HideDragon !HideDragon 2.91 Released!!!My
God!!!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 6:36 am
From:

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 6:56 am
From: "Vidar Olavesen"

> Don't tell me what is most important.

Okay, it's more important to me

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TOPIC: PS3 and PSP sales catching up to Wii and DS in Japan
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 7:49 am
From: Blig Merk

Here are the latest Japanese console hardware sales for the week of
October 22 - 28:

1. NDS Lite - 76,243
2. PSP - 59,792
3. Wii - 27,502
4. PlayStation 3 - 18,785
5. PlayStation 2 - 11,698
6. Xbox 360 - 3,718
7. GB Micro - 64
8. GameCube - 58
9. GBA SP - 41
10. NDS - 30

The novelty of the Wii is looking like it is wearing out and both the
Wii and DS are showing a big drop in sales numbers, indications of
reaching saturation levels. This has been happening for a few months
now in Japan with sales of the PS3 and PSP starting to ramp back up in
comparison. It is becoming obvious the PS3 is the console that comes
out on top after the Beanie Babies appeal of the Wii. The xflop 3-
shitty isn't even in the picture, being more like the fake dog poop of
consoles. The Japanese market is starting to see the PS3 is the game
console and entertainment system for 2008 and beyond. Sony, the PS3
and PSP own 2008 and beyond while the xflop 3-shitty continues its
slide into the shithole of death.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 8:03 am
From: NiGHTS

Blig Merk wrote:
> Here are the latest Japanese console hardware sales for the week of
> October 22 - 28:
>
> 1. NDS Lite - 76,243
> 2. PSP - 59,792
> 3. Wii - 27,502
> 4. PlayStation 3 - 18,785
> 5. PlayStation 2 - 11,698
> 6. Xbox 360 - 3,718
> 7. GB Micro - 64
> 8. GameCube - 58
> 9. GBA SP - 41
> 10. NDS - 30
>
> The novelty of the Wii is looking like it is wearing out and both the
> Wii and DS are showing a big drop in sales numbers, indications of
> reaching saturation levels. This has been happening for a few months
> now in Japan with sales of the PS3 and PSP starting to ramp back up in
> comparison. It is becoming obvious the PS3 is the console that comes
> out on top after the Beanie Babies appeal of the Wii. The xflop 3-
> shitty isn't even in the picture, being more like the fake dog poop of
> consoles. The Japanese market is starting to see the PS3 is the game
> console and entertainment system for 2008 and beyond. Sony, the PS3
> and PSP own 2008 and beyond while the xflop 3-shitty continues its
> slide into the shithole of death.
>

I really thought he was gonna disappear for a while after that second
Assassins Creed incident.

--
NiGHTS/Nightcrawler [mWo]
Fear Is The Mindkiller

"just a curtain jerking jobber here in RSPWland" -Lord Gow
"a laughably shitty shitbag" -The Teacher
"pretty pathetic" -rwa2play
"a sarcastic douchebag" -Cain
"NiGHTS is gay!!!" -Corey

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 8:09 am
From: carlahomolka@hotmail.com

On Nov 4, 11:03 am, NiGHTS <nightsintodreamsYOHOL...@blueyonder.co.uk>
wrote:
>
> I really thought he was gonna disappear for a while after that second
> Assassins Creed incident.
>

He would have if he ever bothered to read any of the replies to the
pathetic threads he makes.

He probably still thinks that was an Xbox screenshot.

He hasn't even bothered to remove the evidence of his stupidity from
his geocities account.

http://www.geocities.com/bligmerk/Assassins-creed-ps3-3shitty.jpg

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TOPIC: Fight Night Round 3 Online Shit
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/db37ece3a4f68bef?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 8:23 am
From: "Guest"

So what are you saying? I mean, there is no reason why may fighter should throw a punch and then be frozen and I can't move him even to block while someone else has the time to hit me with a serious blow. It should not happen.
"Stu" <arklay12@(no spam)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:Ol9Xi.58704$vI1.49381@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
dry yer eyes
"Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in message news:HKudnQU6CZWCvLDanZ2dnUVZ_qWtnZ2d@comcast.com...
I know this game is old, but online I still play this one most. I hate the fact that I cannot select options and choose any and every fighter or weight class. I also hate the fact that some opponents fighters seem to be faster than mine or even faster when I used their fighter. Also, how come when I throw a punch, my guy becomes immobilized and cannot move while the other guy can give me a good punch? If that bullshit would end, I would never lose.

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TOPIC: On the Concept of "Replayability" was Re: Ratchet and Clank back up
over 90%
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 9:47 am
From: "Nick Soapdish, Jr."

On Nov 2, 7:29 pm, Tom <jimver...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 2, 7:30 pm, "Nick Soapdish, Jr." <JGordon...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 31, 11:05 pm, Tom <jimver...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 31, 9:54 pm, "Nick Soapdish, Jr." <JGordon...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Oct 30, 8:36 pm, Tom <jimver...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Oct 30, 8:03 pm, "Nick Soapdish, Jr." <JGordon...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Oct 29, 10:35 pm, "Tom" <no...@nothere.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > "Nick Soapdish, Jr." <JGordon...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:1193700099.988023.200810@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > > > > > What it needs isn't necessarily a "system seller", but more exclusive
> > > > > > > > games that are good, if not great. Pricing the first party games
> > > > > > > > competitively, like they used to do, would also help.
>
> > > > > > > True, but here's the issue to date. They have had exlcusives come out over
> > > > > > > the past 3 months, (I think) more than the 360, and a few are highly rated
> > > > > > > games. The issue is, there is enough hardware out for the software to sell
> > > > > > > very well, and that is just not happening. I wonder what the attach rate is
> > > > > > > right now for the PS3?
>
> > > > > > > For example, Heavenly Sword got pretty good scores, but has sold like crap.
> > > > > > > If the exclusives won't sell, people are not going to be compelled to buy
> > > > > > > more hardware, and hardware usually sells on word of mouth because of ther
> > > > > > > games. One issue I am seeing is that current Sony games are similar to PS2
> > > > > > > games, and it isn't translating into the world of online gaming which is at
> > > > > > > an alltime high, not only with PCs, but now with consoles. Now people want
> > > > > > > games that have online gaming/capabilities and multiplayer, not just games
> > > > > > > you pay in one mode and you are done with it; Sony is giving very little of
> > > > > > > that, if any at all. In fact, two friends of mine who were avid Sony fans
> > > > > > > made 360 purchases this year, my buddy next door, and a co-worker, they love
> > > > > > > the games and what they do, but they mainly like the exclusives that have MP
> > > > > > > mode and extra features.
>
> > > > > > > For me, I really won't get a game, unless it is an RPG (ala Oblivion) that
> > > > > > > keeps me interested for a long, that doesn't have online gaming modes; it is
> > > > > > > the reason I got into console gaming. How many times are people going to
> > > > > > > play HS, R&C, Folklore, Lair over and over again with getting the same
> > > > > > > ending and no MP mode. Do you see a great deal of replay value?. They may
> > > > > > > sell those games off causing a slight drop in real sales otherwise. Also
> > > > > > > look at the cross-platform games that were huge on the 360, that have been
> > > > > > > since released on the PS3, they have like a 1-10 sales ratio, and you'd
> > > > > > > think the PS3 owners would be buying these games to have something to play;
> > > > > > > something is happening, and it isn't game sales.
>
> > > > > > This isn't meant to be going off on you, Tom, so take it as it's
> > > > > > worth:
>
> > > > > > What the hell has the gaming world come to, where a game must have
> > > > > > online multiplayer to
> > > > > > be considered "replayable"?
>
> > > > > > When I was younger, the idea of "online gaming" was pretty much
> > > > > > unheard of, except at networks
> > > > > > in college and the government. Bionic Commando had no multiplayer-
> > > > > > that didn't keep me from replaying
> > > > > > it again and again, after winning it. Same with Super Mario Brothers
> > > > > > 3, Guerilla War, Revenge of Shinobi,
> > > > > > and on and on and on. Before that, I had no problem playing Commando
> > > > > > on my Commodore multiple times,
> > > > > > or Defender on my Atari 2600, despite the complete lack of
> > > > > > multiplayer. Games aren't just there to
> > > > > > "get to the ending"- it's the journey, not the destination.
>
> > > > > > Any game that is good enough on its own can be "replayable", barring
> > > > > > either serious pacing issues, a
> > > > > > poor setup, or genre limitations, which I see mostly affecting
> > > > > > survival horror games that rely more on
> > > > > > shocking the player as its source of entertainment. Mundane games
> > > > > > like Red Faction 2 or Project
> > > > > > Snowblind are no more replayable just because they have multiplayer.
> > > > > > And the big problem with games
> > > > > > that rely heavily on multiplayer is that they rely on the assumption
> > > > > > that everyone will love and continue to
> > > > > > play the game online forever and ever. Well, what happens if the game
> > > > > > flops, or if its popularity dies?
> > > > > > If the single player game is an afterthought, then that $60 feels
> > > > > > awfully wasted........
>
> > > > > > I certainly can understand the appeal of a multiplayer mode. But it
> > > > > > almost seems like reviewers place
> > > > > > an undue emphasis on the idea that multiplayer and replayability are
> > > > > > inseparable, Bioshock notwithstanding.
> > > > > > It feels kind of like laziness to me, as if it's a template statement
> > > > > > for reviewers who are more than
> > > > > > happy to go on cliche autopilot.
>
> > > > > > OK, rant over.........- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > But, this is what the world of gaming has come to, and we no longer
> > > > > have a choice that the interent is a huge and growing medium for
> > > > > gaming. I gave mostly what I say I like, and the reasons why I bought
> > > > > into the Xbox and the 360, because of online gaming. I didn't buy
> > > > > Bioshock because it didn't have MP or any extras so to speak. Games
> > > > > like Oblivion do appeal, because they have a lot of play time involved
> > > > > and can be played multiple ways; that was the point I was making
> > > > > really. These games for the PS3 are mimicking what PS2 games did,
> > > > > except many PS3 game exclusives are not including MP or anything else
> > > > > online, though it offers this on PSN.
>
> > > > > I am not knocking the PS3 games, but Sony has to appeal to the markets
> > > > > now, not just what I like or you like. Otherwise, what you say would
> > > > > have games selling of the shelves for the PS3. You do know that the
> > > > > past and current gens of console gaming is based and developed because
> > > > > of what games did online for the PC for years before, and it shows
> > > > > with the first Xbox and the 360.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > Consider this, though- the original Xbox had a far superior online
> > > > component compared to the PS2,
> > > > yet it still came in second by a substantial margin.
>
> > > But, the Xbox was a year later, and the DC was all but dead, so for
> > > that gen the only competition was Xbox, so the PS2 had a big sales
> > > jump, consider also, it followed a hugely successful PS1, the Xbox was
> > > no follow up. But what made the Xbox great was not only the better and
> > > more powerful hardware, but the fact that it had a robust online
> > > gaming system in the works that came out nearly a year after its
> > > release. I think Ghost Recon offered the best look at online console
> > > gaming, and it stole the show, that game was freaking awesome for that
> > > time. Then Halo2 set the standard, but the PS2, though having the
> > > capabilities, followed with a fairly poor service with so few games
> > > that offered any online gaming, but it sold and sold big. Now, you'd
> > > think the Sony name would sell itself, and I think Sony kept to that.
> > > Though their hardware sales are getting a bit better with the PS3,
> > > they still are not good. But more importantly, their software sales
> > > downright stink, now think of the times now to then, and consider why.
>
> > > > The Wii is
> > > > already ramping up console sales, despite
> > > > a weak online system. There is no doubt that an online component is a
> > > > consideration.
>
> > > The Wii is a niche market, and we know what the N64 and GC did in
> > > sales, it wasn't all that, and give it another year or so, and you'll
> > > see how well it does since it is gimicky (I could be wrong though).
> > > Right now, it has the poorest attach rate of the 3 consoles, that says
> > > it's collecting dust more than being played, people won't keep buying
> > > it if the games are not selling.
>
> > > .
>
> > > > But what you're
> > > > saying sort of misses my point- online multiplayer is not a necessity
> > > > for something to have "replay
> > > > value".
>
> > > Tell me games like Folklore and Heavenly Sword have a lot of replay
> > > value, they have very little at best,
>
> > I haven't played Heavenly Sword, but if it was a good game that's
> > actually fun to play, and
> > does not have a super-scripted gameplay style (where there's very
> > little chance to try different
> > approaches, and the AI _never_ diverges from doing the same exact
> > thing), then, yes, it would
> > have replay value. That's different than "value for the money", and
> > if Heavenly Sword is as
> > short as the reviews indicate (a little more than half the length of
> > God of War 2), then it certainly
> > doesn't have value for the money. "Value for the money" is actually
> > what is suffering nowadays,
> > with games being more expensive, but having less content. This is
> > something that is hurting all
> > the systems, but Sony isn't helping itself with its sparse first party
> > release schedule.
>
> > Folklore is an RPG, so the "replay value" factor isn't a major one, as
> > RPGs are usually
> > long enough for the "value for the money" factor to dominate.
>
> Folklore is way more Action/Adventure with a little RPG element.

What I gathered from the reviews was that it was an action-RPG- far
more than a "little" RPG element. I could be wrong, as I haven't
played it.

>
>
>
> > >and this is what is killing
> > > Sony, they are sticking with what was good years ago when console
> > > gaming didn't require a lot more than initial excitement while they
> > > churn out games en mass for the multitudes of PS2 owners to choose
> > > from, because they didn't have but one element of gaming to them,
> > > mainly single story play. This is different now with all the
> > > experience with different modes of play that PC gaming brought about.
> > > Online PC gaming, when about the time the PS2 came along was taking
> > > off fast, it was barely an infant when about the time the PS1 came
> > > out. But it did take off and so did the reasoning why current consoles
> > > are selling, they are not just single mode single story games anymore,
> > > and people want more because they know there is more out there now.
> > > People do see and think what is out when they play games you know, and
> > > it is going to keep changing, Sony seems to stay the course.
>
> > But by your argument, Sony ISN'T staying the course when it releases
> > Warhawk,
> > which has NO single player element........and that, IMO, was a big
> > mistake.
>
> Nick, I generalized single story, but in this case, and it is the only
> one without a story, but it still has onlys a single element, that
> beingMP mode. I was simply pointing out, while the PS2 kept doing its
> thing, the Xbox was creating more gaming modes as does the 360, and
> the PS3 seems to be doing the same thing as before.
>

Considering that the PS2 still had a fair number of multiplayer games,
I'm not sure your point is that strong. Xbox Live was a much more
efficient and centralized system, but I'm not sure that the game
libraries themselves reflected any major trend.

> > for Halo's success, the first game featured single player prominently,
> > and got a lot of
> > its fanbase due to the single player game. After all, the actual
> > number of gamers who
> > had the resources for the famous system link parties couldn't have
> > been that high.
>
> Keep in mind, many Halo sales were bundles with the Xbox, that's how I
> got mine.

I'm not sure if that was the case for at least a couple of years after
launch. But Halo was already the most prominent game of the Xbox
library within the first year.

>
>
>
> > > > As for PC online gaming dictating console gaming, I don't see
> > > > that, with the exception of
> > > > FPS games. Games like God of War and Grand Theft Auto 3 weren't
> > > > inspired by Quake, that's for
> > > > sure. And Halo, probably one of the most popular console FPS games,
> > > > diverged from PC FPS tradition
> > > > by having a fairly significant gameplay element that pulled out of the
> > > > first person view- vehicular combat.
>
> > > I am in no way dismissing what you say, but if what you say really
> > > follows, then PS3 sales for their most recent releases should be
> > > through the roof translating into big hardware sales, it isn't . They
> > > are doing very poorly, and I am only guessing that my assumptions are
> > > the reasons why; the times have changed, and Sony isn't changing.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > The reason is that Sony launched a year late against a competitor
> > which WASN'T Sega,
> > with an overly expensive price tag, and the most moronic pre-launch PR
> > seen in a while,
> > and the launch lineup was not really strong. It wasn't necessarily
> > that Sony was stuck in a
> > "genre rut", but that people were hoping for titles that reflected the
> > PS2 lineup at its strongest,
> > and got something that was more ho-hum.
>
> All what you listed are some reasons for weak sales, etc, those have
> been covered for months now. I am talking about now, with the
> exclusives Sony is releasing. Don't you see, they are not selling
> these games and there is a reason why, considering they have almost
> 5.5mil consoles out the door and I gave my reasons which I will again,
> what other reason can you think of.

Sony has released little more than a trickle of exclusives. Heavenly
Sword didn't sell that well because of the reviews saying it was far
shorter than God of War 2, but it still sold OK. The God of War games
sold pretty well, despite the fact that they had NO multiplayer. HS
was a case of "not enough value for the money". Ratchet & Clank just
released, and has had precious little advertising prior to release.
Lair suffered TERRIBLE press, due to the motion control fiasco. I'm
sure that if one of these franchises had been the main prop of the
prior console iteration's success, and had $10 million+ in advertising
behind it, the attach rate would have been quite a bit greater. I
can't really think of any other recent Sony exclusives.

Also, are those 5.5 million consoles sold, or shipped?

>I am thinking it is because they
> offer no more than a single element to the game, that mostly being a
> single story that has little replay value.

I've already given my argument why the statement that a single player
story has no "replay value" is erroneous. I haven't seen anything to
show that my argument is wrong.

>This in a time now where MP
> online gaming is big,

Not big enough to keep Shadowrun from flopping.

>and the 360 makes almost all of their games that
> mode. Sony is selling exclusives with nothing more than one elemnt to
> the game (whether it be MP or single story only).
>
> Read the latest attach rates for the PS3, and give why you think the
> games are not selling.

See above.

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TOPIC: COD4 PS3 Version Will Be Superior to Xbox
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 9:59 am
From: "Nick Soapdish, Jr."

On Nov 3, 8:41 am, "Big Daddy" <nos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "The alMIGHTY N" <natle...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1194020019.338183.41970@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Nov 2, 11:53 am, "Big Daddy" <nos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> "boodybandit" <allaboutga...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> >> That's even an exclusive title for the PS3.
>
> >> > So than that should matter to me why exactly?
>
> >> Doug is all about exclusives. In fact he rarely makes a post without
> >> pointing out how there are no games to play on the ps3. He doesn't
> >> seem
> >> to grasp that we can actually play non-exclusives on our console.
>
> > To be fair, a potential consumer is going to evaluate the consoles not
> > only on the number of games there are but how many exclusives there
> > are.
>
> Not necessarily. I was a potential consumer when I made my decision and it
> wasn't based on exclusives at all. It was based on blu-ray capabilities,
> free online play, the fact I could play my PS2 games on it (of which I had
> more of around than xbox), the system seemed more powerful and thus future
> proof, MS just dumped support of my xbox *completely* after 4 years so I had
> no confidence they wouldn't do the same 4 years later again, etc. For me
> it was worth the extra money for all of the above. Exclusives actually had
> zero bearing on my decision as I knew games would come for whichever system
> I chose (and there will always be some game on one that I wish I had that
> isn't available on mine, whichever way i went).
>
> I'm not saying I'm indicitive of most consumers, but my point is that
> exclusivity counts, but there are a lot of other factors as well.
>
> In fact, joe sixpack has probably limited interest in exclusives, or even
> what games are exclusive to a particular console. They go to buy a gaming
> system and see the game section and see a lot of games they want and they
> have no idea if the 360 has it or the WII. As long as that game section is
> large and filled with things their interest is peaked.
>
> My point is, for me to keep reading "there are no games" always makes me say
> "WHAT?" since I'm playing *something*...if it's not games then I'm really
> confused.
>

I think that's a good point- the existence of exclusives, while
important, is still not as much of a factor as would be a system that
lacked games, period, whether they be multiplatform or not.

Of course, the Wii has sold a ton, despite the fact that it gets the
shaft as far as getting multiplatform games. That may be due to the
price factor........

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TOPIC: got a DVD problem
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 2:59 pm
From: Mark Johnson

Hey Guys, wonder if anybody can help?

I was watching a movie on one of my 360's and all of a sudden it started
to jump a little then go into fast forward mode. I took the disc out and
it was as new (clean). I've come across disc's jumping when they are
dirty, but never going faster. Has anybody else ever had this happen?

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TOPIC: Call of Duty 4: Arcade Mode
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 3:10 pm
From: Jonah Falcon

http://www.gamestooge.com/2007/11/04/call-of-duty-4-arcade-mode/

Complete with NES menu screen and music, arcade style shooting,
complete with points, multipliers, and extra lives.

This looks like a real gas. :)

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