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TOPIC: FREE SHIPPING! DVDs are 100% brand new, and factory sealed! good
quality and cheap price!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/1923b1bcb447527c?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 12:12 am
From: Tom

On Nov 3, 1:54 am, helen <wswsq...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Please visit:JiangSu YanYi video supermarket (www.nicedvder.com)
>

Can you send me these COD?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 7:59 am
From: "Vidar Olavesen"

And what's free shipping? I tested and wanted to buy 3 box sets, but
shipping was almost as much as the items. That's free for you. And not too
sure, they have Star Trek original series box 1-3 and list them in one item,
if USD 25 or whatever it was is the right price, that's cheap and I expect
poor quality. Don't know if I want to order. Anybody got anything from
there? Is it cheap burned DVD's or pressed ones?

"Tom" <jimvernes@hotmail.com> skrev i melding
news:1194073961.404539.269190@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 3, 1:54 am, helen <wswsq...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Please visit:JiangSu YanYi video supermarket (www.nicedvder.com)
>>
>
> <snipped>
>
> Can you send me these COD?
>
>

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TOPIC: Xbox's Embarrasing History
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/905c5e8c40f5ed78?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 1:36 am
From: slayerman89@hotmail.com

On Nov 2, 8:48 am, NiGHTS <nightsintodreamsYOHOL...@blueyonder.co.uk>
wrote:

> > The slogan "only on Xbox" becomes an industry joke as several of
> > Xbox's great exclusives are ported to other consoles. For example,
> > Splinter Cell found it's way on all other platforms, and even the
> > great Halo ended up on the PC with a superior version.
>
> I'll concede that the PS2 port of the *first* Splinter Cell game was the
> better version, but since when did anyone regard the pc version of Halo
> as superior?

It certainly was easier with mouse/keyboard (it can literally be
beaten on legendary difficulty without dying - in single
player(headshotheadshotheadshot)), but I certainly scoff at saying the
PC version was 'better'. It is pretty much exactly the same with
different controls, except if I am remembering correctly the PC
version has no co-op campaign, making it not worthwhile in the
slightest.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 1:45 am
From: Tom

On Nov 3, 4:36 am, slayerma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Nov 2, 8:48 am, NiGHTS <nightsintodreamsYOHOL...@blueyonder.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > > The slogan "only on Xbox" becomes an industry joke as several of
> > > Xbox's great exclusives are ported to other consoles. For example,
> > > Splinter Cell found it's way on all other platforms, and even the
> > > great Halo ended up on the PC with a superior version.
>
> > I'll concede that the PS2 port of the *first* Splinter Cell game was the
> > better version, but since when did anyone regard the pc version of Halo
> > as superior?

> except if I am remembering correctly the PC
> version has no co-op campaign, making it not worthwhile in the
> slightest.

The Xbox/PS2 versions had no co-op either, they were both single
player only games.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 2:00 am
From: Jordan

On Nov 3, 1:45 am, Tom <jimver...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 3, 4:36 am, slayerma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Nov 2, 8:48 am, NiGHTS <nightsintodreamsYOHOL...@blueyonder.co.uk>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > The slogan "only on Xbox" becomes an industry joke as several of
> > > > Xbox's great exclusives are ported to other consoles. For example,
> > > > Splinter Cell found it's way on all other platforms, and even the
> > > > great Halo ended up on the PC with a superior version.
>
> > > I'll concede that the PS2 port of the *first* Splinter Cell game was the
> > > better version, but since when did anyone regard the pc version of Halo
> > > as superior?
> > except if I am remembering correctly the PC
> > version has no co-op campaign, making it not worthwhile in the
> > slightest.
>
> The Xbox/PS2 versions had no co-op either, they were both single
> player only games.

He's talking about co-op Halo not co-op Splinter Cell. The PC version
of Halo offered no co-op mode. My guess is because the console version
only had it locally via split screen and that would be almost
impossible to do on a PC monitor. Certainly impossible with a single
keyboard and mouse.

- Jordan

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 7:41 am
From: NiGHTS

slayerman89@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Nov 2, 8:48 am, NiGHTS <nightsintodreamsYOHOL...@blueyonder.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>> The slogan "only on Xbox" becomes an industry joke as several of
>>> Xbox's great exclusives are ported to other consoles. For example,
>>> Splinter Cell found it's way on all other platforms, and even the
>>> great Halo ended up on the PC with a superior version.
>> I'll concede that the PS2 port of the *first* Splinter Cell game was the
>> better version, but since when did anyone regard the pc version of Halo
>> as superior?
>
> It certainly was easier with mouse/keyboard (it can literally be
> beaten on legendary difficulty without dying - in single
> player(headshotheadshotheadshot)), but I certainly scoff at saying the
> PC version was 'better'. It is pretty much exactly the same with
> different controls, except if I am remembering correctly the PC
> version has no co-op campaign, making it not worthwhile in the
> slightest.
>
>

Can't help seeing it in context either. I think Halo was superb as a
*console* FPS, but when you compare it against the high quality FPS
games already on PC by the time the port came out it seems rather mundane.

--
NiGHTS/Nightcrawler [mWo]
Fear Is The Mindkiller

"just a curtain jerking jobber here in RSPWland" -Lord Gow
"a laughably shitty shitbag" -The Teacher
"pretty pathetic" -rwa2play
"a sarcastic douchebag" -Cain
"NiGHTS is gay!!!" -Corey

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 8:14 am
From: HidariMak

On Nov 2, 4:24 pm, The alMIGHTY N <natle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Microsoft decides to punish anyone who dares to mod their Xbox by
> > banning them from Live for life.
>
> Sony ran several companies out of business with the costs of lawsuits
> for emulating PSOne games.
>
> Microsoft did exactly what they should do - everybody knows that
> people modded their Xbox systems for one reason... to be able to play
> ripped games. Are you seriously going to defend people's "right" to
> pirate games, dumbass?

That would certainly be the case with the 360 and the Wii, but not as
much with the first Xbox. The homebrew titles Xbox Media Center
(XBMC) and Gentoox (Linux on the Xbox) were both the main reasons for
me to mod my own. I waited until those apps were released before
buying an Xbox, with full intentions on modding it, with 3 retail
games. And over two dozen legal commercial games were purchased in
the years afterwards -- the only games I really played on it.

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TOPIC: Why Uncharted can only be on PS3
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/c8045f7b835600cd?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 1:39 am
From: "Captain Jack Harkness"

"khee mao" <big_bad_buddha_daddy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fgg185$1rs$1@gnus01.u.washington.edu...

> so since when is a 3.5% gain "making money" you stupid douche?

You can't read at all, can you PoS3tard?

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TOPIC: OT: Hellgate: London review
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/2c2f77695961d187?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 1:55 am
From: Jordan

On Nov 2, 8:56 pm, Jonah Falcon <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> http://www.gamestooge.com/2007/11/02/review-hellgate-london-pc/
>
> (sigh)

A shame considering the early buzz for it. Gamerankings puts it at 77%
with a high score of 89% and a low score of 60%

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages4/927136.asp

The only PC title I'm looking forward to is Tabula Rasa, but there
aren't any scores on it yet.

- Jordan

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 7:00 am
From: Jonah Falcon

On Nov 3, 4:55 am, Jordan <lu...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Nov 2, 8:56 pm, Jonah Falcon <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.gamestooge.com/2007/11/02/review-hellgate-london-pc/
>
> > (sigh)
>
> A shame considering the early buzz for it. Gamerankings puts it at 77%
> with a high score of 89% and a low score of 60%

The high score is PC Gamer (a print magazine), and you know how early
they'd have had to have a copy of the game to have a review that
quickly? I seriously doubt they had a story copy to base it on (or the
post-release servers.)

GameSpy gave it 3 of 5, and IGN's first take is none too positive.

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TOPIC: HD-DVD player at Walmart tomorrow for $98.97
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/3bae30b0fd86aa0f?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 2:07 am
From: Jordan

On Nov 2, 11:04 am, mordacpreven...@hotmail.com wrote:

> If you own a 1080p television, you're in a very small minority of HD
> television owners.
>
> Most are 720p and a few are 1080i, but hardly anyone is at 1080p
> according to HD TV sales figures.

Agreed. They didn't become widely available until this year and the
mass market priced machines are all 720p.

Although the prices are coming down. My 56" 1080p set was priced at
$2099 and was supposed to come with a free $200 video camera. When
Circuit City couldn't provide enough cameras they just took $200 off
the price making it $1899.

I'm thinking about picking up a 720p set for Mom for Christmas and am
finding them in the $600 to $750 range.

- Jordan

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 4:54 am
From: PBDepot

On Nov 3, 1:07 am, Jordan <lu...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Nov 2, 11:04 am, mordacpreven...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > If you own a 1080p television, you're in a very small minority of HD
> > television owners.
>
> > Most are 720p and a few are 1080i, but hardly anyone is at 1080p
> > according to HD TV sales figures.
>
> Agreed. They didn't become widely available until this year and the
> mass market priced machines are all 720p.
>
> Although the prices are coming down. My 56" 1080p set was priced at
> $2099 and was supposed to come with a free $200 video camera. When
> Circuit City couldn't provide enough cameras they just took $200 off
> the price making it $1899.
>
> I'm thinking about picking up a 720p set for Mom for Christmas and am
> finding them in the $600 to $750 range.

Yeah, the prices on those are ridiculous. In this Walmart ad alone
they were selling a 50 inch Sony Plasma for under a grand. That's the
beauty of new tech becoming affordable to the masses, it makes the
older stuff dirt cheap and available to everyone.

But the best part about it is that it means a lot more people will be
getting HD in some form ot the other in their homes, and that media
companies can finally start to feel safe about releasing all their
products in a high definition format. The way it was meant to be.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 9:03 am
From: dm@nospam.com (Dave)

In article <1194090842.275328.220200@e34g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,
PBDepot <chuckb@paintball-depot.com> wrote:

>Yeah, the prices on those are ridiculous. In this Walmart ad alone
>they were selling a 50 inch Sony Plasma for under a grand.

Sanyo.
Didn't look too bad from the one I saw running. $1000 is pretty
darned good for a 50" plasma, but I'd still go Panny for ~$1500 over
this one.

Me, I just bought the $100 player.

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TOPIC: Assassin's Creed Famitsu review: 37/40
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/97b66bfcf6c9934e?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 2:25 am
From: slayerman89@hotmail.com

On Nov 2, 7:10 pm, Jordan <lu...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Nov 2, 8:53 am, "boodybandit" <allaboutga...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > 1 button combat?
> > OMG say that is incorrect information please!?
> > The AI and now this?
>
> I don't see 1 button combat as being a bad thing. Prince of Persia
> Sands of Time had one button combat and it was one of the better games
> to come out that year.

Yea, except for the fact that it didn't. Sands of Time had right hand,
left hand, jump, kick and throw.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 2:27 am
From: slayerman89@hotmail.com

On Nov 2, 6:58 pm, "Trimble" <no-s...@never.spam> wrote:
> PRINCE OF PERSIA 5 does stuff in FABLE 3 perhaps ?
> (\__/)
> (='.'=)
> (")_(") mouse

The next PoP would be 7, not counting remakes under different names
(Wii PoP).

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 6:27 pm
From: "Brenden D. Chase"

"Shawk" <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote in message
news:09mdncgO2LdTWbbanZ2dnUVZ8sTinZ2d@bt.com...
> Brenden D. Chase wrote:
>> "boodybandit" <allaboutgamez@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:QLSdnf8CDLnO_rbanZ2dnUVZ_q6mnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> "Jonah Falcon" <jonahnynla@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1194022004.523749.101720@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Nov 2, 12:44 pm, "boodybandit" <allaboutga...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>> news:1194021043.290917.109720@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 2, 11:56 am, "Big Daddy" <nos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> "boodybandit" <allaboutga...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:P7adnbpne6uI1bbanZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>> "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1194017803.196937.211090@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>> Famitsu awarded Assassin's Creed a 37 (10, 8, 9, 10) out of 40,
>>>>>>>>> citing
>>>>>>>>> the story, presentation, and acrobatics, while criticizing the one
>>>>>>>>> button combat, map layout, and camera problems.
>>>>>>>> 1 button combat?
>>>>>>>> OMG say that is incorrect information please!?
>>>>>>> How do you have 1 button combat? What is the point? The fights
>>>>>>> might as
>>>>>>> well be cutscenes if that is the case.
>>>>>> Not if it's rythmic combat - which Fable 2 is using as well.
>>>>>> It's context sensitive, and you can easily fuck up fighting. This is
>>>>>> not a beat 'em up.
>>>>>> PS. Most PC games have one button combat. (laugh)
>>>>> Im all about the immersion and 1 button combats removes that for me.-
>>>>> Hide quoted text -
>>>>>
>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>> Says who? Have you actually played it? Single button combat may make
>>>> it MORE immersive - becoming all about technique and less about button
>>>> hunt-and-mash and combo memorization.
>>>>
>>>> But hey, if you lost interest, that's fine - more copies for the rest
>>>> of us.
>>> You sound like Gamespot in reverse.
>>> Hey maybe you can make it a a reviewer afterall.
>>> Either way 1 button combat wont appeal to a lot of people. So don't
>>> make it out like I'm the minority here. Not that any of this matters
>>> because I just got off the phone wit ha friend and he said this info
>>> isn't correct. Ubisoft is giving you the option of one button combat but
>>> you don't have to play that way. I hope he is right nad this information
>>> you posted was just lost in translation.
>>
>> One button combat didnt hurt Space Invaders or Asteroids.
>
>
> I always considered moving left and right or turning as part of the combat
> in those games. I don't think I'd have got the high scores i did back
> then without them...

Well then good news... Assassin's Creed will not only allow you to go left,
right, forward, and backward, but you'll also be able to go upward and
downward.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 9:03 am
From: yaugin

This thread, and indeed all the anticipatory buzz about AC, puzzles
me. You know AC is being made by the same team that did Prince of
Persia. AC is obviously derived from that series. The Two Thrones
featured the speed kill system and chariot riding. Then of course
there's the Arabian theme and the familiar platforming element. So why
is everyone acting like the game's concepts are mysterious? It's
obviously just the next PoP game, with a new character and plot. I am
99% certain that the combat system in AC is exactly the same as in the
PoP series, minus time reversal. If you liked the combat system in
those games, you'll like AC. If not, then you won't. Am I the only
person here who actually played The Two Thrones?

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TOPIC: New $99, 'compact' PS2 to arrive in 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/585c5a1123fe3172?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 3:53 am
From: Ross Ridge

Doug Jacobs <djacobs@shell.rawbw.com> wrote:
>Sony is basically dicking customers around by removing PS2-BC
>functionality and then making it seem as if this is actually somehow a
>"good" thing.

Well, they're not removing it completely, they're putting backward
compatibility on par with the XBox 360, but yah.

>If cost really was a big deal to Sony, why didn't they nix the Wifi?

According to the a teardown of the PlayStation 3 back when it was
released the WiFi module was estimated to cost Sony $15.50, while the
cost of the PS2 chips (EE and GS) were estimated at $27. If Sony is
able to competively source the WiFi components (eg. the drivers are in
the PS3's flash ROM rather than the PS3 game disks), then they would
have more leverage to get the price of the WiFi components reduced than
the PS2 components.

Ross Ridge

--
l/ // Ross Ridge -- The Great HTMU
[oo][oo] rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
-()-/()/

http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~rridge/

db //

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TOPIC: Ratchett and Clanks sells a whopping 97,000 copies in first week!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/e0c2b7ea4f8bca94?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 5:00 am
From: SHaKeY STeVe

On Nov 1, 9:26 am, Robert P Holley <holle...@delanet.com> wrote:
> On Oct 31, 4:47 pm, elro...@pop.uky.edu wrote:
>
> > Wow, you PS3 fanboys must be proud.
>
> > Hey, if it had sold another 20,000 it would have matched the sales
> > numbers of the mega-hit "Ace Combat 6" on the 360.
>
> In fairness the installed base for the X360 in the US is much higher
> than the PS3's. In any event, I was one of those 97,000 people who
> bought it and couldn't be more satisfied. The game is great fun.

Not only does it have great gameplay, it could be one of the most gut-
busting hilarious games ever made.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 5:03 am
From: SHaKeY STeVe

On Nov 2, 12:37 pm, carlahomo...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Nov 2, 11:45 am, "Big Daddy" <nos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > <carlahomo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:1194012473.014238.213740@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > On Nov 2, 9:31 am, "boodybandit" <allaboutga...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > >> When you clarify things for the confused can you include mentality
> > >> challenged vs retard?
> > >> It might make your points sound a little more valid instead of the
> > >> rumbles
> > >> of a ..... er um "retard".- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Shove your political correctness up your gaping, festering asshole.
> > > Real men call 'em like they see 'em.
>
> > So real men hide behind usenet, act tough, and say things they would NEVER
> > say face to face to someone as they would get their asses handed to them?
>
> Hmmm, I don't recall saying that any of those are characteristics of a
> real man. Your list obviously varies from mine. Whatever floats your
> boat.
>
> However I did say that a politically correct piece of shit that is
> offended by the word "retard" is not a real man.
>
> If you're assuming I meet anyone of those criteria you listed, you are
> 100% wrong. I call people retards to their face all the time. And I'm
> yet to have anyone "hand me my ass". If you think I am "acting tough",
> then I am sorry that I frightened you. Perhaps your parents should
> install some sort of filtering software so you don't have to read
> posts from people like me.

By the way Carla, how's prison life treating you?

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TOPIC: GH3: Raining Blood
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/b6082eff98360e8e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 6:57 am
From: Mitch@...

I'm playing on Hard mode, and just got to this wicked song.
It's killing me. I can't even do the Mosh section on slow practice
mode.

Any tips?

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TOPIC: eBay - Rock Band Special Edition with demo disk
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/cbaebdc4cd77c299?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 7:03 am
From: nobody@mixmin.net (Ted)

http://301url.com/RockBand

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TOPIC: COD4 PS3 Version Will Be Superior to Xbox
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/fcc5db383e9c7966?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 7:41 am
From: "Big Daddy"

"The alMIGHTY N" <natlee75@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1194020019.338183.41970@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 2, 11:53 am, "Big Daddy" <nos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "boodybandit" <allaboutga...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> That's even an exclusive title for the PS3.
>>
>> > So than that should matter to me why exactly?
>>
>> Doug is all about exclusives. In fact he rarely makes a post without
>> pointing out how there are no games to play on the ps3. He doesn't
>> seem
>> to grasp that we can actually play non-exclusives on our console.
>
> To be fair, a potential consumer is going to evaluate the consoles not
> only on the number of games there are but how many exclusives there
> are.

Not necessarily. I was a potential consumer when I made my decision and it
wasn't based on exclusives at all. It was based on blu-ray capabilities,
free online play, the fact I could play my PS2 games on it (of which I had
more of around than xbox), the system seemed more powerful and thus future
proof, MS just dumped support of my xbox *completely* after 4 years so I had
no confidence they wouldn't do the same 4 years later again, etc. For me
it was worth the extra money for all of the above. Exclusives actually had
zero bearing on my decision as I knew games would come for whichever system
I chose (and there will always be some game on one that I wish I had that
isn't available on mine, whichever way i went).

I'm not saying I'm indicitive of most consumers, but my point is that
exclusivity counts, but there are a lot of other factors as well.

In fact, joe sixpack has probably limited interest in exclusives, or even
what games are exclusive to a particular console. They go to buy a gaming
system and see the game section and see a lot of games they want and they
have no idea if the 360 has it or the WII. As long as that game section is
large and filled with things their interest is peaked.

My point is, for me to keep reading "there are no games" always makes me say
"WHAT?" since I'm playing *something*...if it's not games then I'm really
confused.

Games like Call of Duty 4, Grand Theft Auto IV, Madden,
> Strangehold, etc. aren't going to factor into a decision-making
> process because you can play them on either console.
>
> A consumer will base their decision more on which console has the
> greater number of exclusives they want to play. If the consumer really
> likes the Halo franchise, they'll go with the Xbox 360. If the
> consumer really likes the Ratchet and Clank franchise, they'll go with
> the Playstation 3.
>
> However, it's also tough to ignore seeing a much bigger section of
> games for the Xbox 360 than for the Playstation 3. The diehard
> Playstation fans who are adamant about playing the Sony-associated
> exclusives will go for that box nonetheless, but a more casual gamer
> or someone looking to purchase for a loved one is going to be more
> likely to choose the Xbox 360 simply because there are more games to
> play, exclusive or not.
>
> Of course, price had to factor into it earlier in the year. Now, with
> the $400 PS3 on its way, it pretty much just comes down to the games
> (and to some extent the Blu-Ray capability).
>

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 7:47 am
From: "Big Daddy"

"Doug Jacobs" <djacobs@shell.rawbw.com> wrote in message
news:13ine7iol9map09@corp.supernews.com...
> For games on the 360 and PS3 that look and play nearly identically, the
> PS3 is going to be at a disadvantage solely due to its price.

True, if games were the only part of the equation. You have to factor
things like blue-ray, free online play, etc. Those are decision points
whether they matter to you personally or not. For a lot of people (myself
included) the price disadvantage was made up for with the other things (not
to mention I found the price disadvantage moot since if you own the console
for 4 years that's $200 in online fees you would pay for the 360, which
suddenly puts them both in the same pricing bracket in my case)

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TOPIC: PS3 sales triple in Europe and three times greater than xflop 3-shitty
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/0d585f063c01c8e4?hl=en
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Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 10:33 am
From: "mrwilkins"

"Captain Jack Harkness" <captainjack@torchwood.gov> wrote in message
news:pISdnXWmtsKoAbTanZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> "Tom" <jimvernes@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1193890490.843843.282660@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>> On Oct 31, 9:30 pm, Jonah Falcon <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> > Poor Blig Merk.
>>
>> Yea, but here in the US, I noticed Motorstorm moved into 10nth place
>> from 20th now in sales. That means the PS3 is selling also since it is
>> bundled with it. According to VGChatrz, PS3 sales uin the US went up
>> +61% from the previous week. The 360 in Europe is getting outsold
>> nearly 2-1 by the PS3, so if that keeps up, we know how fast it can
>> close. Personally, this is good news since it will keep the market
>> strong for competition.
>
> Clearance sales will do that.
>
>

PS3? I didn't know sony still made consoles

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