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TOPIC: Are There Plans On Releasing The PC content On XBL Of Gears Of War
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/5fc8a89c6661b347?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 6:59 am
From: "JOE"

I just saw the ad for the Pc release of gears of war. It mentions it has 5
more chapters for the single player campaign. Which is supposed to add more
story & I think a new enemy. Has anyone heard if these are going to be
released for the 360 sometime? I'm hoping for xbox live and not a game of
the year edition if they do.
I know my Pc won't be able to handle the game.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 8:20 am
From: "boodybandit"

"JOE" <warthog9@verizon.net> wrote in message news:93GWi.2$Rg1.0@trnddc05...
> I just saw the ad for the Pc release of gears of war. It mentions it has 5
> more chapters for the single player campaign. Which is supposed to add
> more
> story & I think a new enemy. Has anyone heard if these are going to be
> released for the 360 sometime? I'm hoping for xbox live and not a game of
> the year edition if they do.
> I know my Pc won't be able to handle the game.

Nope. The additional content isn't coming to XBL.
It almost makes me want to purchase a better video card so I can play it on
my pc.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 8:37 am
From: Jonah Falcon

On Nov 2, 11:20 am, "boodybandit" <allaboutga...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "JOE" <warth...@verizon.net> wrote in messagenews:93GWi.2$Rg1.0@trnddc05...
> > I just saw the ad for the Pc release of gears of war. It mentions it has 5
> > more chapters for the single player campaign. Which is supposed to add
> > more
> > story & I think a new enemy. Has anyone heard if these are going to be
> > released for the 360 sometime? I'm hoping for xbox live and not a game of
> > the year edition if they do.
> > I know my Pc won't be able to handle the game.
>
> Nope. The additional content isn't coming to XBL.
> It almost makes me want to purchase a better video card so I can play it on
> my pc.

PC Gamer says there's a bit of mental disconnect when playing Gears of
War on the PC. Like something's not quite right.

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TOPIC: Warner may be Blu-Ray exclusive next year
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/5e0bd27485f6bd6a?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:04 am
From: The alMIGHTY N

On Nov 2, 9:18 am, "CellFish" <nomores...@forme.com> wrote:
> "The alMIGHTY N" <natle...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1193973578.442221.100930@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Nov 1, 9:36 pm, "CellFish" <nomores...@forme.com> wrote:
> >> "The alMIGHTY N" <natle...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> >> messagenews:1193933729.873102.292670@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > On Nov 1, 11:57 am, "CellFish" <nomores...@forme.com> wrote:
> >> >> "The alMIGHTY N" <natle...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> >> >> messagenews:1193928237.176377.43820@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> >> >http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Warner/Warner_Mulls_Change_in_...
>
> >> >> > My apologies if this was already posted. I just read it a few
> >> >> > moments
> >> >> > ago.
>
> >> >> > If Warner were to become a Blu-Ray exclusive studio, that would
> >> >> > pretty
> >> >> > much seal the deal because Warner is by far the biggest next-gen
> >> >> > format releaser of all the studios and has an excellent portfolio of
> >> >> > titles.
>
> >> >> I would agree about that. Warner being exclusive on Blu-Ray would
> >> >> weaken
> >> >> HD-DVD considerably. I still love movies from Universal and Paramount
> >> >> studios though.
>
> >> > I'm pretty sure I have favorite movies from all the different studios.
> >> > On the Blu-Ray side, it's hard to ignore the Spider-man movies, the
> >> > Terminator movies, the soon-to-be-released Aliens films, anything from
> >> > Disney, and other similar major titles.
>
> >> > Whether any specific person likes them or not, they're still going to
> >> > be huge movies that will sell well, relative to the size of the
> >> > market.
>
> >> > Once those dual-format players hit reasonable pricing levels, this
> >> > whole format war will be irrelevant.
>
> >> It turns out that Warner is not favoring Blu-Ray at all. In fact, they
> >> let
> >> their Blu-Ray license expire last night on October 31st. Apparently,
> >> they're
> >> set to announce exclusivity to one format or the other by the end of the
> >> year. Hopefully, it will be HD-DVD.
>
> >http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Warner/Warner_Mulls_Change_in_...
>
> > The greater install base for Blu-Ray and the lower prices for set-top
> > players are things Warner obviously can't ignore.
>
> Except that the installed base for Blu-Ray isn't exactly buying movies
> whereas the installed base for HD-DVD is SPECIFICALLY buying movies. No one
> that has an HD-DVD drive right now is buying it for games whereas a lot of
> people who have a Blu-Ray drive are.

I don't see how you can claim that owners aren't buying movies. There
are a LOT more sales of Blu-Ray movies than there are of HD-DVD
movies. In fact, in the first 9 months of 2007, there were almost
twice as many Blu-Ray than HD-DVD movies sold.

You can say that attach rate of movies to players is much lower, but
sales are sales... no matter what the reason, Warner Bros. cannot
ignore that there are undeniably more Blu-Ray movies being sold. They
even pointed out that their top-selling movie, 300, did much better at
retail in the Blu-Ray format.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 8:17 am
From: "Big Daddy"

"CellFish" <nomorespam@forme.com> wrote in message
news:3tFWi.5656$Pl6.32697@weber.videotron.net...

> Except that the installed base for Blu-Ray isn't exactly buying movies
> whereas the installed base for HD-DVD is SPECIFICALLY buying movies.

Except that you are completely wrong.

Did you even READ the article?

Silverberg went on to emphasize the Warner's strong Blu-ray sales, noting
that the studio's Blu-ray release of '300' is the format's top selling disc.
"We can definitely talk Blu-ray," said Silverberg. "We are committed to the
format."

Blu-ray disk sales is currently outselling HD-DVD by a 4:1 margin (9:1 in
Japan). Those are huge gaps to ignore unless MS is throwing money at you to
ignore them (a-la paramount)

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TOPIC: Ratchett and Clanks sells a whopping 97,000 copies in first week!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/e0c2b7ea4f8bca94?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:05 am
From: elrous0@pop.uky.edu

On Oct 31, 5:56 pm, Paul Heslop <paul.hes...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> What makes me laugh is that you call other people fanboys but you're
> the one posting stuff insulting a console... and I'm assuming that
> makes you an xbox fanny with the xbox group in the headers.

You're assuming that my use of the word "fanboy" is an implicit
criticism against fanboyism itself.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:06 am
From: elrous0@pop.uky.edu

On Oct 31, 10:02 pm, evadnikufesin
<evadnikufe...@gmail.invalidcom.domain> wrote:

> Fuck off, bitch.

Anthrax fan or not, you still suck.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:07 am
From: carlahomolka@hotmail.com

On Nov 2, 9:31 am, "boodybandit" <allaboutga...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> When you clarify things for the confused can you include mentality
> challenged vs retard?
> It might make your points sound a little more valid instead of the rumbles
> of a ..... er um "retard".- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Shove your political correctness up your gaping, festering asshole.
Real men call 'em like they see 'em. A spade is a spade. A retard is a
retard. And it's mentally challenged, not mentality challenged.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 8:18 am
From: SpanishTeacher

On Nov 2, 7:54 am, elro...@pop.uky.edu wrote:
> On Nov 1, 2:45 pm, The King of Gaming <king.of.gam...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > 97,000 copies of R&C given the install base is impressive by
> > any standard, which you damn well know.
>
> 97,000 copies of a game that was supposed to be a flagship title is an
> absolute joke, It's barely worth comparing to even the crappiest of
> 360 titles.
>
> If you think for a second that developers aren't paying attention to
> numbers like that, you're fucking nuts. You think they are going to
> want to develop exclusive titles for a console that can't even sell
> over 100,000 copies of a major title in its debut week, when they
> could be developing for the 360 (which can sell more than that for
> even minor titles)?!?!?
>
> -Eric

Give the numbers this week after it is actually AVAILABLE everywhere.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 8:23 am
From: "boodybandit"

<carlahomolka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194012473.014238.213740@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 2, 9:31 am, "boodybandit" <allaboutga...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> When you clarify things for the confused can you include mentality
>> challenged vs retard?
>> It might make your points sound a little more valid instead of the
>> rumbles
>> of a ..... er um "retard".- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Shove your political correctness up your gaping, festering asshole.
> Real men call 'em like they see 'em. A spade is a spade. A retard is a
> retard. And it's mentally challenged, not mentality challenged.

You don't disappoint.
BTW. You are FAR from a real man.
Someday when you grow up you'll ealrn what a real man actually is.
Maybe mommy and daddy can explain it to you.
I'm done.

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TOPIC: A Bioshock Halloween (coolest dad ever!}
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/19694890be420c62?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:10 am
From: elrous0@pop.uky.edu

On Nov 1, 7:15 pm, halobungieman007 <halobungieman...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEqZkglTVYE
>
> Awesome! The little sister is too sweet for words.

Way to go, Mr. B!

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TOPIC: What will the PSN offer us this week?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/d5e069e656e9a08a?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:13 am
From: elrous0@pop.uky.edu

On Nov 1, 7:19 pm, "Rowdy J" <row...@aol.com> wrote:
> Holy Crap! A Close Encounters of The Third Kind trailer! YESSSSSSSSS!!!!
> PS3 RULES!!!!!

Man, I wish I could have gotten than one on my Atari 2600.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:30 am
From: "Rowdy J"

"boodybandit" <allaboutgamez@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:cZOdne4JeYhWjbbanZ2dnUVZ_sSlnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> "Rowdy J" <rowdyj@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:8HuWi.2443$yV6.985@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
>>
>> "boodybandit" <allaboutgamez@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:wdqdnbABNMz-9rfanZ2dnUVZ_h2pnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>
>>> "Rowdy J" <rowdyj@aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:8atWi.16160$lD6.1330@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
>>>> Holy Crap! A Close Encounters of The Third Kind trailer!
>>>> YESSSSSSSSS!!!! PS3 RULES!!!!!
>>>>
>>>> Actually, on their behalf, they DID release the TimeShift demo that
>>>> LIVE has had for weeks... and the Pro Street demo which LIVE has had
>>>> for about a week or so.
>>>
>>> Awe. You were doing so good up until you had to mention this. *sigh* ;-)
>>>
>>> Next week is Uncharted the demo. That is by far my most important and
>>> anticipated demo. I have zero plans of getting Time Shift or Pro Street
>>> but I am very interested in checking out Uncharted.
>>> Now if only MS or Sony could get a ACreed demo out.
>>
>>
>> I'll agree with you on that. I'm definitely interested in seeing and
>> playing the Uncharted demo. I hope it lives up to the billing. That
>> will be one PS3 game I will be buying if it does.
>>
>> On a side note... Timeshift DEFINITELY looks better on the 360. I
>> thought the PS3 demo was UGLY. It was damn near BLURRY.
>
> Timeshift wasn't that hot on the 360 either. At least not to me. I didn't
> try the PSN version and I have no reason to since I didn't care for the
> 360 demo. I am just tired of generic shooters regardless of what new
> gimmick they offer.
>
> Did you try the NFS:Pro Street demo on PSN?
> I am wondering if EA is finally showing the PS3 some love. It was an ok
> demo on the 360 but it doesn't quite live up to PGR4 as far as handling or
> fun factor.
> I actually enjoyed Sega Revo more than the Pro Street demo. The next racer
> I will be picking up is Burnout Paradise.
>
> Oh well I guess I'll power up my PS3 before I leave and just download
> everything. (except TimeShift)

We tried the Pro Street demo last night. I LIKED IT! I haven't tried it
on the 360 yet... but I thought the feeling of SPEED was tremendous on the
PS3 version.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:31 am
From: "Rowdy J"

"RMZ" <Jeremy.Deats@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194011964.859738.170030@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 1, 3:33 pm, "Rowdy J" <jk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Trailers? SD Trailers? HD Trailers? Trailers featuring tailers of
>> other
>> trailers? Trailers of Blu-Rays that feature trailers of trucks with
>> trailers attached?
>>
>> And maybe a background of a trailer?
>
> PSN is free, that's worth everything to an American right?
>

Now why would you say that? I gladly pay for X-Box LIVE. It opens a
can of "ass whip" (sorry, bad wrestling joke) on PSN right now in every
respect. I, unlike some, live by the token... YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:32 am
From: oremites

On Nov 2, 6:59 am, RMZ <Jeremy.De...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 1, 3:33 pm, "Rowdy J" <jk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > Trailers? SD Trailers? HD Trailers? Trailers featuring tailers of other
> > trailers? Trailers of Blu-Rays that feature trailers of trucks with
> > trailers attached?
>
> > And maybe a background of a trailer?
>
> PSN is free, that's worth everything to an American right?

Absolutely right, as evidenced by the fact that XBOX Live is now
almost empty of Americans because they've all gone to PSN.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 8:29 am
From: "boodybandit"

"Rowdy J" <rowdyj@aol.com> wrote in message
news:MvGWi.2477$yV6.1913@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
>
> "boodybandit" <allaboutgamez@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:cZOdne4JeYhWjbbanZ2dnUVZ_sSlnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>> "Rowdy J" <rowdyj@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:8HuWi.2443$yV6.985@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
>>>
>>> "boodybandit" <allaboutgamez@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:wdqdnbABNMz-9rfanZ2dnUVZ_h2pnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Rowdy J" <rowdyj@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:8atWi.16160$lD6.1330@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
>>>>> Holy Crap! A Close Encounters of The Third Kind trailer!
>>>>> YESSSSSSSSS!!!! PS3 RULES!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, on their behalf, they DID release the TimeShift demo that
>>>>> LIVE has had for weeks... and the Pro Street demo which LIVE has had
>>>>> for about a week or so.
>>>>
>>>> Awe. You were doing so good up until you had to mention this. *sigh*
>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Next week is Uncharted the demo. That is by far my most important and
>>>> anticipated demo. I have zero plans of getting Time Shift or Pro Street
>>>> but I am very interested in checking out Uncharted.
>>>> Now if only MS or Sony could get a ACreed demo out.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'll agree with you on that. I'm definitely interested in seeing and
>>> playing the Uncharted demo. I hope it lives up to the billing. That
>>> will be one PS3 game I will be buying if it does.
>>>
>>> On a side note... Timeshift DEFINITELY looks better on the 360. I
>>> thought the PS3 demo was UGLY. It was damn near BLURRY.
>>
>> Timeshift wasn't that hot on the 360 either. At least not to me. I didn't
>> try the PSN version and I have no reason to since I didn't care for the
>> 360 demo. I am just tired of generic shooters regardless of what new
>> gimmick they offer.
>>
>> Did you try the NFS:Pro Street demo on PSN?
>> I am wondering if EA is finally showing the PS3 some love. It was an ok
>> demo on the 360 but it doesn't quite live up to PGR4 as far as handling
>> or fun factor.
>> I actually enjoyed Sega Revo more than the Pro Street demo. The next
>> racer I will be picking up is Burnout Paradise.
>>
>> Oh well I guess I'll power up my PS3 before I leave and just download
>> everything. (except TimeShift)
>
>
> We tried the Pro Street demo last night. I LIKED IT! I haven't tried
> it on the 360 yet... but I thought the feeling of SPEED was tremendous on
> the PS3 version.

I played the Pro Street on the PS3 but I want to hear your opinion after you
had a chaance to play both.

Time Shift is definitely better on the 360.
I don't care for the game on either but it just appear to work and play
better on the 360.

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TOPIC: GH3 (PS3) has some problems
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/dc9c264b6cc61604?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:14 am
From: The alMIGHTY N

On Oct 30, 10:51 am, Jonah Falcon <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> http://xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/guitar-hero-iii/831299p3.html
>
> "Of the various platforms, the PS3 Les Paul feels great in your hands,
> though the interface with the console is quite clunky. You'll use a
> USB dongle to attach to the PS3, and it functions on 2.4 Ghz wireless,
> rather than the console's built-in Bluetooth. You won't be able to use
> the PlayStation button to turn on your console; instead, you'll either
> use a Sixaxis or physically turn it on.
>
> On the PS3, we encountered some odd problems during a co-op Career.
> Just like the Sixaxis, the Les Pauls will power down after a period of
> disuse, but one guitar wouldn't respond to the dongle signal no matter
> how many times we followed the instructions and reset both dongle and
> guitar. We reset the console to restart everything, but that also
> wiped out our progress, which allegedly had been autosaving all along.
> Ouch. Adding insult to injury, barring a patch from Sony or Red
> Octane, there's currently no backwards compatibility with the prior
> games, which is just another pain for PS3 owners to deal with. "
>
> This is not the PS3's fault so much as Red Octane's.

Didn't you recently go after RMZ for posting about the developer who
said PS3 development was difficult? You also went off on me for even
asking which PS2 games Xbox gamers would be interested in playing,
stating that this was an Xbox newsgroup "period."

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TOPIC: WTF??? PS3 version of PES 2008 has worse framerate drops/slow-downs
than the 360??
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/d16e71798df5a48d?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:17 am
From: AirRaid

On Oct 31, 11:52 am, "CellFish" <nomores...@forme.com> wrote:
> "AirRaid" <AirRaid...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1193847269.838775.184730@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Oct 25, 9:39 pm, Holy Moses <H...@Moses.com> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:30:03 -0600, Holy Moses <H...@Moses.com> wrote:
> >> >One of the reasons I had purchased the PS3 was for the PES franchise.
> >> >Started out playing the franchise on my PS2, and it's absolutely one
> >> >of my games year in year out.
>
> >> >But just WTF is this??? How can the PS3, with its superior hardware
> >> >and processing power, have a worse slow-down than the 360 during
> >> >gameplay???
>
> >> >Where am I getting this from? From the lead developer of the game
> >> >himself, Seabass.
>
> >> >IGN: In the PS3 version we've played we noticed some slow-down in the
> >> >game, plus the crowd and stadiums aren't as polished as some of the
> >> >on-pitch features. Will you look to rectify this in the next game?
>
> >> >Seabass: Of course. To be honest I don't think the slow-down is that
> >> >bad compared to the 360 and as I said, we don't create just a PS3
> >> >game, we created both together. But when we compared them directly we
> >> >were shocked because the PS3 has a little bit more slowdown and we
> >> >don't really know why.
>
> >> >http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/827/827315p1.html?RSSwhen2007-10-15_07...
>
> >> >I also read at a couple of European gaming forums that the 360 version
> >> >of the game has better graphics too both during the cutscenes and the
> >> >gameplay. The game's already released in the stores over there.
>
> >> >I'll be taking delivery of C&R when it gets released in here Canada.
> >> >But if this game doesn't impress me, and I never was much of a fan
> >> >with cartoonish looking games, so it'd better have some really cool
> >> >gameplay experience, then I'm seriously going to conside selling my
> >> >PS3 altogether.
>
> >> >This is total bullshit. I've had this console since the launch and
> >> >this is rather pathetic.
>
> >> Oh, and here's a gaming site review thrashing the slow-downs in the
> >> PS3 version of the game. Bah.http://www.pro-g.co.uk/ps3/pes7/review.html
>
> >> I bought the PS3 not just for the exclusives I was hoping it will have
> >> down the line, but also thinking that even with games which are
> >> released for both the 360 and the PS3, the PS3 will definitely have
> >> better looking graphics and better gameplay experience overall.
>
> >> How wrong was I on that? Look at Madden 08. The other of my
> >> favourite game franchises and I ended up getting it for my 360.
> >> Crikey.
>
> >> Better hardware and infinitely more powerful processing power doesn't
> >> mean shit when the game developers aren't going to make the PS3
> >> version that much better than the 360.
>
> > better hardware? LOL infinitely more processing power? LOL.
>
> > PS3 has LESS graphics rendering/framebuffer bandwidth than Xbox 360
> > 22.4 GB/s vs 256 GB/s
>
> > PS3 has LESS pixel fillrate than Xbox 360 when anti-aliasing is used
> > 2 Gpixels/s vs 4 Gpixels/s
>
> > PS3 has LESS triangle setup/ polygon drawing performance than Xbox 360
> > 250M polys/s vs 500M polys/s
>
> > PS3's biggest advantage in processing power over Xbox 360
> > is CELL's floating point performance compared to that of Xenon.
> > 218 GFLOPS vs 116 GFLOPs
>
> > but that does NOT help with GRAPHICS and FRAMERATE - Xbox 360 usually
> > has the advantage,
>
> > Finally, stop being a fucking prick acting like PS3 is superior and
> > then being surprised when the Xbox 360 versions of certain games run
> > smoother and/or look better.
>
> The only true advantages that the PS3 has is a) the stability of the
> hardware, b) the quietness of the hardware, c) the cost of the network.
> Everything else, except the beauty of the console, is worse.

not actually 100% true. the PS3 DOES have SOME performance, feature
advantages in its chipset over Xbox 360, but those are less than the
advantages that Xbox 360 has over PS3.

-that's just fact, not my opinion. I am not afraid to say where PS3
is stronger than Xbox 360 in certain areas because, unlike some Xbox
fanboys. on the otherhand, i'm not a Sony fanboy either. PS3 has alot
of limitations. so does Xbox 360, it just happens that PS3's
limitations are usually worse than Xbox 360's.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 8:17 am
From: Holy Moses

On 2 Nov 2007 07:17:23 -0700, AirRaid <AirRaidJet@gmail.com> wrote:

>-that's just fact, not my opinion.

Fuck you asshole. Like you know anything. STFU, fucking prick. LOL.

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TOPIC: New $99, 'compact' PS2 to arrive in 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/585c5a1123fe3172?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:40 am
From: AirRaid

The news will surely come as a blow to Sony rivals Nintendo and
Microsoft, who have see sales of PS2 suffer somewhat due to the
introduction of Wii and Xbox 360 in recent years.

PS2 this week celebrated its seventh anniversary, during which time it
has sold over 120 million units worldwide. Yet this cut demonstrates
Sony's belief that the system's market is far from exhausted.

Last month, publisher bosses from the likes of Eidos, Ubisoft and
Atari suggested to MCV that a price cut on the console could massively
reinvigorate its sales figures.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/28753/New-low-price-compact-PS2-to-arrive-in-2008

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:47 am
From: AirRaid

sorry, i only posted half the article
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New low-price 'compact' PS2 to arrive in 2008

Tim Ingham Today, 9:48am

Redesigned model boasts built-in power supply; 25 per cent price drop
likely

Thought PlayStation 2 hardware sales were going to quietly disappear
after the revenue frenzy of Christmas? Think again - Sony is preparing
to introduce a new, cut-price model of the console in early 2008.

MCV can exclusively reveal that this 'compact' PS2 will hit the US at
just $99 in the New Year - a reduction of $30 from its current selling
price of $129.

If a similar percentage cut is introduced in the UK, retailers can
expect to sell the revamped system for just £75 - or maybe lower.

The new version has a built-in power supply for the first time in the
console's history - allowing the platform holder to manufacture it
more economically and sell it at the bargain price.

The news will surely come as a blow to Sony rivals Nintendo and
Microsoft, who have see sales of PS2 suffer somewhat due to the
introduction of Wii and Xbox 360 in recent years.

Last month, publisher bosses from the likes of Eidos, Ubisoft and
Atari suggested to MCV that a price cut on the console could massively
reinvigorate its sales figures.

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TOPIC: Xbox's Embarrasing History
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:55 am
From: "alvinstraight38@hotmail.com"

Xbots love to rub it in about how poorly the PS3 has performed this
year even daring to go so far as to compare it to the disasteristic
Jaguar. Yet one only has to dig a little into history and reveal
Xbox's shockingly bad history.

Xbox debuts in 2001 with one of those worst game libraries in gaming
history. Anyone remember Bruce Lee? Nightcaster? Azurik ? The
console is pricey at $300 bucks.

Xbox is forced to drop their price a few months later

Xbox rapes users forcing them to pay big bucks for standard extras
such as a dvd remote and headset.

Xbox live debuts in 2002 with a mere handful of Live games. Gamers
have to wait almost a year before decent multiplayer titles come out.

Brute Force is hyped hugely as the next great Halo type game. The
game is a laughable failure with an extremely short game length.
Fable is a similiar experience.

The slogan "only on Xbox" becomes an industry joke as several of
Xbox's great exclusives are ported to other consoles. For example,
Splinter Cell found it's way on all other platforms, and even the
great Halo ended up on the PC with a superior version.

In 2005, Microsoft reveals that they literally lost billions on Xbox.

Microsoft decides to punish anyone who dares to mod their Xbox by
banning them from Live for life.

Just as Xbox was gathering momentum in 2005, Microsoft completely
drops all support in favor of Xbox 360. Xbox owners are forced to
update or brick their big black box.

Xbox 360 launches in 2005 with only one good game - Call of Duty 2, a
PC title. Xbox 360 would take almost a full year to release one
decent exclusive.

Despite a year head start, on September 12, 2007, it was reported by
the Financial Times that the Xbox 360 had been surpassed by the Wii in
terms of worldwide console sales.

Since 2005, Microsoft has yet to turn a profit with over 4 billion
lost. 1/4 of this cost went to repairing Xbox's lousy hardware with
their extended warranty.

Man, and you think the PS3 is doing bad?

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TOPIC: HD-DVD player at Walmart tomorrow for $98.97
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/3bae30b0fd86aa0f?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:59 am
From: "Big Daddy"

"Jordan" <lundj@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:1193968295.207316.325490@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

> K-Mart (WTF? Yes, K-Mart) announces they are going HD-DVD only:

as the comment says, makes kmart all the more irrelevant.

Also curious as to where joe sixpack who shops at kmart is going to be
renting their HD-DVD movies since blockbuster only does blu-ray

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 8:18 am
From: Mark Johnson

Jordan wrote:
> On Nov 1, 5:22 pm, Trevor Smithson <trevor_smith...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Just in case the storm this has caused on the Internet has passed you
>> by:
>>
>> http://holiday.ri-walmart.com/?section=secret
>>
>> I think this is a better deal than the 360's add-on drive. The only
>> downside I can see is a lack of 1080p output, which is irreleveant if
>> your TV has a good deinterlacer.
>
> Best Buy is matching the price:
>
> http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/more-%2499-hd-dvd-player/best-buy-matching-99-toshiba-hd-dvd-player-at-walmart-317909.php
>
> K-Mart (WTF? Yes, K-Mart) announces they are going HD-DVD only:
>
> http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/format-war/kmart-going-hd+dvd-exclusive-except-the-ps3-317288.php
>
> - Jordan
>

ummm no its not, it was all bollox.

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Kmart/Kmart:_Were_Purple/1137

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TOPIC: Assassin's Creed Famitsu review: 37/40
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 8:36 am
From: Jonah Falcon

Famitsu awarded Assassin's Creed a 37 (10, 8, 9, 10) out of 40, citing
the story, presentation, and acrobatics, while criticizing the one
button combat, map layout, and camera problems.

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